danvsjr Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 Or, after all these years of feature requests, they could just replicate Illustrator's Image Trace tool. We could stop this foolish journey of workarounds. Yes, it took Adobe several versions to include in Illustrator. Corel Draw had it years before Adobe. I used their raster to vector conversions in the early 1990's. Affinity has a good vector app with Designer and a good raster app with Photo. They have all the parts and knowledge needed. creator and Ozymandias1972 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JokerMartini Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 I need this feature....come on affinity!!! please thomllama and ReinhardK 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dominik Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 5 hours ago, JokerMartini said: I need this feature....come on affinity!!! please Did you read this post? There are many options that you can use right away. No need to wait until Serif comes up with a solution 🙂 d. dreamdancer 1 Quote Affinity Designer 1 & 2 | Affinity Photo 1 & 2 | Affinity Publisher 1 & 2 Affinity Designer 2 for iPad | Affinity Photo 2 for iPad | Affinity Publisher 2 for iPad Windows 10 21H2 (19044.2251) 64-bit - Core i7 - 16GB - Intel HD Graphics 4600 & NVIDIA GeForce GTX 960M iPad pro 9.7" + Apple Pencil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spidermurph Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 Serif already has a very good Autotrace in their legacy program DrawPlus. Try to get your hands on a copy of that. You will not be dissapointed it is an amazing program. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulEC Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 56 minutes ago, spidermurph said: Serif already has a very good Autotrace in their legacy program DrawPlus. To be quite honest, that's really a matter of opinion. I always found Autotrace in DrawPlus to be absolute rubbish. It was always either inaccurate or produced enormous files. Yes, Autotrace in AD would be very nice, but I'd rather wait a bit longer for Serif to get it right, than have a "quick fix" that doesn't work properly. As others have said, there are alternatives, personally I use Inkscape (which is free) when I need to use Autotrace. Alfred 1 Quote Acer XC-895 : Core i5-10400 Hexa-core 2.90 GHz : 32GB RAM : Intel UHD Graphics 630 : Windows 10 Home Affinity Publisher 2 : Affinity Photo 2 : Affinity Designer 2 : (latest release versions) on desktop and iPad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alfred Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 1 hour ago, spidermurph said: Try to get your hands on a copy of [DrawPlus]. Please note that DrawPlus is a Windows-only application, and now that Serif are no longer selling it they won’t try to provide a fix if a future Windows update breaks something. Quote Alfred Affinity Designer/Photo/Publisher 2 for Windows • Windows 10 Home/Pro Affinity Designer/Photo/Publisher 2 for iPad • iPadOS 16.7.2 (iPad 7th gen) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catshill Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 21 hours ago, PaulEC said: To be quite honest, that's really a matter of opinion. I always found Autotrace in DrawPlus to be absolute rubbish. It does need careful tweaking of the settings and depending on the source file, I find it can do a reasonable job but of course YMMV... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dreamdancer Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 On 10/18/2020 at 10:30 PM, dominik said: Did you read this post? There are many options that you can use right away. No need to wait until Serif comes up with a solution 🙂 d. Thank You! I just bought Image Vectorizer and it works well. I needed to trace a bitmap image for a project and was forced to use AI on my oldest computer. Not fun. I came here to find out if Affinity Designer was going to be able to do that, Image Vectorizer is just what I needed. dominik 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenogre Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 VectorStyler can also convert picture in vectors. Only for mac. Free (until … ?). The perfect companion of Designer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fde101 Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 11 hours ago, lenogre said: Free (until … ?). Until it is out of beta and the time limit on the last distributed beta has passed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen_H Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 On 10/19/2020 at 7:30 AM, dominik said: There are many options that you can use right away. No need to wait until Serif comes up with a solution 🙂 d. I think the point is that most of the 334 posts in this discussion, is that we want Affinity Designer to be that option. We don't want to turn to other apps. We should be turning from Inkscape to Aff Designer, not the other way around. What if all Aff Designer users downloaded the free, opensource Inkscape just to trace their scans, and then discover that Inkscape is a better app? Simple rule of business: Never send your clients to your opposition, because they might not come back... thomllama and Meztli 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dominik Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 11 minutes ago, Stephen_H said: What if all Aff Designer users downloaded the free, opensource Inkscape just to trace their scans, and then discover that Inkscape is a better app? Simple rule of business: Never send your clients to your opposition, because they might not come back... Of course you can see it that way but then everyone sits there and does not get anything converted to vector at all. I on my behalf don't consider myself a salesperson for Serif 🙂 There is nothing wrong with asking for this feature. But it doesn't speed up anything. The point is made that there is a demand for this feature and Serif have their reasons why it is not there yet. Cheers, d. Move Along People 1 Quote Affinity Designer 1 & 2 | Affinity Photo 1 & 2 | Affinity Publisher 1 & 2 Affinity Designer 2 for iPad | Affinity Photo 2 for iPad | Affinity Publisher 2 for iPad Windows 10 21H2 (19044.2251) 64-bit - Core i7 - 16GB - Intel HD Graphics 4600 & NVIDIA GeForce GTX 960M iPad pro 9.7" + Apple Pencil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen_H Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 As a quick solution, what I'd advise to Affinity is to not try and integrate all features into their current apps. They should make them standalone utilities. A standalone tracing app using opensource code from Inkscape, just with an Affinity "skin" applied to it that exports Affinity native files, would get the job done fine. Affinity could even charge $5 for it rather than adding it as a feature for free which will frustrate everyone with its slow delivery and impact on earnings. If you think it's important, I'm sure you'd happily pay a measly $5 for it. Instead we wait patiently for its turn to come around in the features roadmap where a developer is going to lovingly integrate it into Designer and probably spends months troubleshooting it because it's conflicting with something in Publisher due to the shared file formats. I think Adobe has already done this: "Save for web", "Filter gallery", "Liquify mode" and "Raw photo developer"... all of which feel like standalone apps with their own interfaces. They feel like they were purchased from third parties and shoe-horned into Photoshop. Years later, they still sit on the fringes and no-one seems to have noticed, or even seems to care. Coel Draw definitely did this. It was called Corel Trace and was an app, not a feature in Draw. I think a range of "Pro level utilities" would be a great money-spinner for Affinity while we wait for v2 of everything to be released. I'd be willing to pay $50 just for an app that will allow me to proof a repro-ready PDF. Just give me the ability to view each colour channel individually to confirm over printing, knockout, spot colours, colour mode. Add listing image resolution, profiles, dimensions, PDF versions etc and I'd trust ALL repro files coming out of Affinities apps. This wouldn't be something all users would need or want, so make it an optional extra. Move Along People 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dominik Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 1 hour ago, Stephen_H said: They should make them standalone utilities. A standalone tracing app using opensource code from Inkscape, just with an Affinity "skin" applied to it that exports Affinity native files, would get the job done fine. I appreciate your way to provide constructive input for a quick solution. But honestly I don't think Serif will be going that route. I think so because a Serif representative once posted (quite a while ago): 'We will only introduce it when we feel the results are good enough.' This does not sound like they are going to wrap around some Affinity-GUI taken from something that is part of Inkscape. Source: They have a strong vision on how they develop their suite and one of the key features is the Personas. So it is much more likely that we will see a Vectorizer Persona at some time instead of a stand alone application. Another 'proof' for this is the new 'Astrophotography Stack' Persona that was introduced with the latest Mac beta of APh. See here: Anyway, it is an interesting topic and I am really curious about what we will see eventually 🙂 d. Quote Affinity Designer 1 & 2 | Affinity Photo 1 & 2 | Affinity Publisher 1 & 2 Affinity Designer 2 for iPad | Affinity Photo 2 for iPad | Affinity Publisher 2 for iPad Windows 10 21H2 (19044.2251) 64-bit - Core i7 - 16GB - Intel HD Graphics 4600 & NVIDIA GeForce GTX 960M iPad pro 9.7" + Apple Pencil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ra.skill Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 +1 for "Image Trace", bring it Affinity creator, thomllama, ReinhardK and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naofel Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 (edited) Hello, I'm guessing most of you have already seen this. Differentiable Vector Graphics Rasterization for Editing and Learning For those that haven't take a look. It's a new method of image vectorisation. Edited January 10, 2021 by Naofel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moi.cool Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 2021 +1 thomllama and ReinhardK 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy0 Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 July 2014 this thread started and still nothing from Serif on adding this function, despite some good points being made - such as you already had this in DrawPlus, Inkscape and Illustrator have the function, etc., etc. As far as I can see, Serif's position is "Use an alternative bit of software as recommended by other users". Not sure that's good for business. If Serif isn't going to add something designers expect to find in Designer when they buy it (like I did) - and are used to having it in other vector drawing programs - can you at least tell us why not? It's not the only [seemingly] simple enhancement that I'd like to see; both tracing and moving both handles of a node simultaneously and symmetrically is managed by Inkscape (free, btw), so I am struggling to understand why Serif seems to just focus on bug-hunting rather than enhancing the designer's experience. Ultimately, it means I use Affinity Designer less and less, which is a shame, because I love it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Wild Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 20 hours ago, Andy0 said: July 2014 this thread started and still nothing from Serif on adding this function, despite some good points being made - such as you already had this in DrawPlus, Inkscape and Illustrator have the function, etc., etc. As far as I can see, Serif's position is "Use an alternative bit of software as recommended by other users". Not sure that's good for business. If Serif isn't going to add something designers expect to find in Designer when they buy it (like I did) - and are used to having it in other vector drawing programs - can you at least tell us why not? It's not the only [seemingly] simple enhancement that I'd like to see; both tracing and moving both handles of a node simultaneously and symmetrically is managed by Inkscape (free, btw), so I am struggling to understand why Serif seems to just focus on bug-hunting rather than enhancing the designer's experience. Ultimately, it means I use Affinity Designer less and less, which is a shame, because I love it. to move both handles of a node equally click on one.... then hold left and right mouse buttons down together and drag Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazmondo77 Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 On 11/10/2020 at 1:05 PM, Stephen_H said: I'd be willing to pay $50 just for an app that will allow me to proof a repro-ready PDF. Just give me the ability to view each colour channel individually to confirm over printing, knockout, spot colours, colour mode. Add listing image resolution, profiles, dimensions, PDF versions etc and I'd trust ALL repro files coming out of Affinities apps. This wouldn't be something all users would need or want, so make it an optional extra. I suggested a while ago similar to above, but for it to be a 'proof persona' as all the features you detail are pretty essential for worry free supplying to a print service provider. I would also add the ability to print a proof to postscript printers and retain CMYK and Vectors at least to the quality of Adobe Reader Quote Mac Pro Cheese-grater (Early 2009) 2.93 GHz 6-Core Intel Xeon 48 GB 1333 MHz DDR3 ECC Ram, Sapphire Pulse Radeon RX 580 8GB GDDR5, Ugee 19" Graphics Tablet Monitor Triple boot via OCLP 1.2.1 - Mac OS Monterey 12.7.1, Sonoma 14.1.1 and Mojave 10.14.6 Affinity Publisher, Designer and Photo 1.10.5 - 2.2.1 www.bingercreative.co.uk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bandsaws Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 Adding my voice to the folks asking for this feature - it's so table stakes I was stunned to discover it was missing when I started exploring my newly-purchased Affinity Designer install. I also maintain an Adobe Creative Suite subscription, so I can use Illustrator to do my tracing for now, but the goal of picking up Affinity was to eventually switch away because I like the overall user experience more, so please continue to prioritize this - so far it's the only thing I've discovered is missing to be able to adopt Affinity full time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kokosz Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 (edited) On 11/5/2020 at 6:21 AM, dreamdancer said: Thank You! I just bought Image Vectorizer and it works well. I needed to trace a bitmap image for a project and was forced to use AI on my oldest computer. Not fun. I came here to find out if Affinity Designer was going to be able to do that, Image Vectorizer is just what I needed. Could you write something about this "Image Vectorizer" tool? I was trying find it but without success is this: http://www.svgvector.com/vectorize-image-mac.html ? Edited January 24, 2021 by Kokosz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
v_kyr Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 27 minutes ago, Kokosz said: Could you write something about this "Image Vectorizer" tool? I was trying find it but without success ... "Image Vectorizer" (AFAIK it's only available via the Mac AppStore) is basically just an older Potrace GUI app from the Potrace author, it doesn't perform any color traces and thus only allows to set/assign manually a stroke and fill color to a trace. The one you referenced instead is SuperVectorizer, which is one of the best tools for MacOS and much better than "ImageVectorizer". To get an idea of what common tracing/vectorizing tools are available see the following informations: Some forum threads about bitmap tracing/vectorization: Image Tracing in Affinity Designer? Image Trace to Vector Path Converting Pixel drawing to Vector? Auto Trace In AFFINITY DESIGNER Best Image Vectorizer for Mac with Affinity Designer ... and so on ... Vectorization and autotracing software for Win + Macs: Super Vectorizer 2 (commercial, Mac) TracedLines (commercial, Mac) Intaglio Vectorize (free to use, Mac) DragPotrace (Mac) + Potrace (free, Win + Mac) Potrace (free, Win + Mac) AutoTrace (free, Win+Mac) Inkscape (free, Win + Mac) MS Expression Design 4 (win, nowadays free) Image Vectorizer (commercial, mac) Vector Magic (commercial, win + mac) Online tracing tools: autotracer vectorizer vectorization Vectorize Raster Images Online (online Photopea, free) ...etc... Online centerline supporting tracing tools: Rapid resizer fConvert Online Vectorizer ...etc... loukash, mrqasq, Ozymandias1972 and 2 others 2 3 Quote ☛ Affinity Designer 1.10.6 ◆ Affinity Photo 1.10.6 ◆ Affinity Publisher 1.10.6 ◆ OSX El Capitan☛ Affinity V2 apps still not installed and thus momentary not in use under MacOS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozymandias1972 Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 12 hours ago, v_kyr said: "Image Vectorizer" (AFAIK it's only available via the Mac AppStore) is basically just an older Potrace GUI app from the Potrace author, it doesn't perform any color traces and thus only allows to set/assign manually a stroke and fill color to a trace. The one you referenced instead is SuperVectorizer, which is one of the best tools for MacOS and much better than "ImageVectorizer". To get an idea of what common tracing/vectorizing tools are available see the following informations: Some forum threads about bitmap tracing/vectorization: Image Tracing in Affinity Designer? Image Trace to Vector Path Converting Pixel drawing to Vector? Auto Trace In AFFINITY DESIGNER Best Image Vectorizer for Mac with Affinity Designer ... and so on ... Vectorization and autotracing software for Win + Macs: Super Vectorizer 2 (commercial, Mac) TracedLines (commercial, Mac) Intaglio Vectorize (free to use, Mac) DragPotrace (Mac) + Potrace (free, Win + Mac) Potrace (free, Win + Mac) AutoTrace (free, Win+Mac) Inkscape (free, Win + Mac) MS Expression Design 4 (win, nowadays free) Image Vectorizer (commercial, mac) Vector Magic (commercial, win + mac) Online tracing tools: autotracer vectorizer vectorization Vectorize Raster Images Online (online Photopea, free) ...etc... Online centerline supporting tracing tools: Rapid resizer fConvert Online Vectorizer ...etc... Actually, I found that using Adobe Capture has been the best solution in my workflow using AirDrop which works wonders. I recently updated to Big Sur with a new 2019 iMac I got a year ago using Affinity Designer and it's been very good. Especially given the fact that with AirDrop's ease of use, I used to go with Dropbox as a go around which was a pain in the neck. This was a thread I posted a year ago about this issue: I hope this may help although SuperVectorizer looks great as an alternative. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fixx Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 Also the new Vectorize! for mac is pretty good, not too many params to adjust though. https://apps.apple.com/us/app/vectorize/id1520204499 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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