meeexx Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 //edit: I've been told to move it to "bugs on mac" Dear all, when I batch process several RAW (*.CR2) files to jpeg all jpegs are way too dark. They don't look nearly like the original. When I use the develop persona for each single RAW file instead, the files look almost the same like the original (but also a little darker then the original). This applies only, when all assistants (except for lens correction) are activated prior to processing (View > Assistant Manager > Develop Assistant). If all of these assistants are deactivated, the pictures differ a lot from the originals and are also way too dark - compared to the RAW files (files look like after batch processing). Do you have an idea, what could be the reason for this? I am shooting pictures only in RAW with my camera and need to batch process all RAWs to jpegs afterwards. For now, I can't do this with Affinity Photo, because each single jpeg is way too dark. For my understanding: The Affinity Photo RAW converter should not change the RAW file in any way, as long as I don't change anything while developing (just import -> export to jpeg). Am I right? This is not the case when using Affinity Photo for RAW development - at least for me. The pictures always differ from the RAW file (they already differ after importing. Exporting seems not to be the problem). sometimes differ slightly: single processing in develop persona with assistants activated. sometimes differ very much: batch processing or single processing and all assistants deactivated. When using "Camera RAW" (just import -> export to jpeg) without any changes, after exporting the pictures look exactly the same like the originals (RAW). So the RAW files are not corrupt. OS: macOS 10.12.4 Affinity Photo: latest version available on app store Camera: Canon EOS 70D (latest firmware) Thank you very much in advance for any hints meeexx YM77 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_K Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 Hi meeex The Affinity Photo RAW converter should not change the RAW file in any way, as long as I don't change anything while developing (just import -> export to jpeg). This is not strictly true. Naturally RAW files are extremely dark and grey due to the data directly from the sensor. When opening in a viewer or app, a tone curve and gamma correction is applied to bring it up to a more expected level. The tone curve can be dreived from the camera data or applied by the engine used in the app, which differs from app to app but the difference is not necessarily wrong, just different. Saying that there is something funky going off with the batch process. it does not seem to be using the same curve or correction as the develop persona which is resulting in these darker images. I'll get this logged with the developers as this does look like it can be improved somewhat Cheers Quote Serif Europe Ltd - Check the latest news at www.affinity.serif.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meeexx Posted March 29, 2017 Author Share Posted March 29, 2017 Ok, thanks for the answer. Kindly keep me/us posted about this topic oder bug. cheers, meeexx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meeexx Posted April 6, 2017 Author Share Posted April 6, 2017 Hi Chris_K, any update on this topic? Thanks, meeexx JonStadePersson 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericiscool Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 i use arw in affinity photo I have this problem too it's very serious With jpeg has adifferent colors and then deformation Color saturation error The blue sky is disappears WTF???? arw with Adobe Lightroom was no problem and Strange white side WTF???????????? It's this affinity photo bug? raw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonStadePersson Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 Hi there, I have the same issue, but I'm using a Surface 4 with Windows and not a mac. When I'm exporting the image to a JPEG everything is fine, but when I'm running a batch job doing the same thing all my images gets really dark. I have tried a lot of different settings, but nothing seems to work. I have attached a file so you can see the differences between batch job and a normal export. OS: Windows 10 Affinity Photo: 1.5.2 Camera: Canon EOS 750D (latest firmware) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_K Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 Hi all Open Raw files using anything other than the Develop persona is usuang a very basic RAW pipeline so it is only adding a simple curve instead of the more sophisticated treament in the Develop persona. This is intended in the current version, however the team are working on changing this so it applies more of the develop style treatments when using other areas of the app Cheers Quote Serif Europe Ltd - Check the latest news at www.affinity.serif.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derwissel Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Any Update to this? Im still facing the same issue, having to just process 100 .CR2 to .jpg a full year later (Windows 10, latest Affinity) - .jpg files are way darker than in develop persona default - exif information is getting lost -> No way to use affinity for a serious raw workflow. (I wont save raw and jpg just cause affinity cant batch convert properly..) I would expect the batch process to just open the raw, apply the same magic as develop persona does per default when opening a raw, and just save the image as jpg. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cjsolomon Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 On 3/17/2018 at 11:06 AM, derwissel said: Any Update to this? Im still facing the same issue, having to just process 100 .CR2 to .jpg a full year later (Windows 10, latest Affinity) - .jpg files are way darker than in develop persona default - exif information is getting lost -> No way to use affinity for a serious raw workflow. (I wont save raw and jpg just cause affinity cant batch convert properly..) I would expect the batch process to just open the raw, apply the same magic as develop persona does per default when opening a raw, and just save the image as jpg. I just posted this exact question, I came across the same issues and I'm new, this is a bad deal if i can't process 500 photos in batch.....simply will not do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
affin-sm Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 On 5/30/2017 at 4:36 PM, Chris_K said: Hi all Open Raw files using anything other than the Develop persona is usuang a very basic RAW pipeline so it is only adding a simple curve instead of the more sophisticated treament in the Develop persona. This is intended in the current version, however the team are working on changing this so it applies more of the develop style treatments when using other areas of the app Cheers Is this still an issue? I was hoping to use Affinity Photo to batch connect Nikon NEF files to JPGs. Thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Patrick Connor Posted June 17, 2018 Staff Share Posted June 17, 2018 @affin-sm Welcome to the Serif Affinity forums Yes, this has not yet been resolved, sorry Quote Patrick Connor Serif Europe Ltd Latest V2 releases on each platform Help make our apps better by joining our beta program! "There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man. True nobility lies in being superior to your previous self." W. L. Sheldon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuctTape Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 bump.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacGyver_ Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 when can we expect improvement?or some macro "auto - Develop Assistant" ?? I have the same problem in Pentax and Windows wersion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuctTape Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 bump... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuctTape Posted July 14, 2018 Share Posted July 14, 2018 Any news yet on when to expect an improvement on this issue? Nikon and Mac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeemuT Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 Having the same issue and waiting for a way to fix this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulW61 Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 Likewise.... Windows 10 Pro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellera Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 I have tried opening several RAW files at once (first with 40 files, then 10..) and every time Affinity crashes. I can't even get to the develop phase! Anyone else have the same problem? It seems that if I want to modify my RAW files and convert them to JPEGs I must open one raw file at a time - meaning that delivering photos to my friend takes forever if the process is this slow and inefficient. I'm hoping that the issue will be fixed soon. I wouldn't want my licence to be wasted... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foot_portrait Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 Two years ago this thread was opened … nothing changed since then. Sad! I just wanted to batch convert all images from a shooting to give them to my model and now this … BUMP!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewartvp Posted April 6, 2019 Share Posted April 6, 2019 I too would love this feature is Affinity still in active development? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Patrick Connor Posted April 8, 2019 Staff Share Posted April 8, 2019 On 4/6/2019 at 11:35 AM, stewartvp said: is Affinity still in active development? Absolutely, there is a very active beta for Mac and Windows Quote Patrick Connor Serif Europe Ltd Latest V2 releases on each platform Help make our apps better by joining our beta program! "There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man. True nobility lies in being superior to your previous self." W. L. Sheldon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
techfips Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 True, but unfortunately the same issue is still present in the newest 1.7.125 beta of Affinity Photo—developing without any active filter/adjustment results in perceivably correct shading compared to batch importing with saving as either JPG or PNG that produces notably darker shades (apparently, roughly the upper third of the histogram is never used). I am quite puzzled how such a serious drawback can survive in the program for such a long time..? APh seems to be the goto solution for RAW processing, but a critically flawed batch import is rendering the whole program much less (if at all) useful for professional work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlen Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 I have the same problem. Is there anybody working on it? Is there any new status update or progress on this issue? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darthvirc Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 Bump. Without a proper BATCH processor This program is Useless to Professionals. Any way I can get a refund? This Bug seems to be here permanently. YM77 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walt.farrell Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 7 hours ago, Darthvirc said: Any way I can get a refund? If you purchased directly from Serif at serif.com within the past 14 days, email affinityreturns@serif.com and they can arrange that for you. If you purchased from Apple or Microsoft you'll need to check their return/refund policies. Patrick Connor 1 Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 17.4.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sonoma 14.4.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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