R C-R Posted April 1, 2017 Share Posted April 1, 2017 Just an aside from a Mac user, but on my system neither Affinity app ever uses a lot of memory, particularly when considering how much of it shared with other processes that must run anyway. I can't say if 4 GB is too little for Affinity Photo to run well on your laptop but there is an easy way to check that: open the Info Studio panel & monitor the "Memory Pressure" when you are editing a large, complex document. If it remains well below 100% then adding RAM won't do anything to improve AP's performance, although of course it probably would for more memory hungry apps. Quote All 3 1.10.8, & all 3 V23.0 Mac apps; 2020 iMac 27"; 3.8GHz i7, Radeon Pro 5700, 32GB RAM; macOS 10.15.7 Affinity Photo 1.10.8; Affinity Designer 1.108; & all 3 V2 apps for iPad; 6th Generation iPad 32 GB; Apple Pencil; iPadOS 15.7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SrPx Posted April 1, 2017 Share Posted April 1, 2017 Windows eats RAM for breakfast ;) (I believe Windows 10 minimum requirement, for the system, is 2gb, and real fact is with just 2gb i t barely functions in basic stuff...That said, it optimizes much better memory than Windows 7 did, after certain quantity. IE, for non graphic usage, with 4gb it goes very snappy. Is just that IMO, in Windows, for graphic work, you must consider 8gb at least...specially as RAM (in Windows, dunno what involves in Macs) is quite cheap, too..) But that's a good point... Quote AD, AP and APub. V1.10.6 and V2.3 Windows 10 and Windows 11. Ryzen 9 3900X, 32 GB RAM, RTX 3060 12GB, Wacom Intuos XL, Wacom L. Eizo ColorEdge CS 2420 monitor. Windows 10 Pro. HP Omen 16-b1010ns 12700H, 32GB DDR5 (corsair), nVidia RTX 3060 6GB + Huion Kamvas 22 pen display, Windows 11 Pro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mouse Posted April 2, 2017 Author Share Posted April 2, 2017 Just an aside from a Mac user, but on my system neither Affinity app ever uses a lot of memory, particularly when considering how much of it shared with other processes that must run anyway. I can't say if 4 GB is too little for Affinity Photo to run well on your laptop but there is an easy way to check that: open the Info Studio panel & monitor the "Memory Pressure" when you are editing a large, complex document. If it remains well below 100% then adding RAM won't do anything to improve AP's performance, although of course it probably would for more memory hungry apps. Affinity is certainly a lot lighter on the memory than most other apps of comparable quality (not that there are many of them) :) I use my Task Manager on detailed view to assess what's going on. Affinity doesn't sap the system even half as much as Krita doing the same things, and is also an improvement on GIMP. Windows eats RAM for breakfast ;) (I believe Windows 10 minimum requirement, for the system, is 2gb, and real fact is with just 2gb i t barely functions in basic stuff...That said, it optimizes much better memory than Windows 7 did, after certain quantity. IE, for non graphic usage, with 4gb it goes very snappy. Is just that IMO, in Windows, for graphic work, you must consider 8gb at least...specially as RAM (in Windows, dunno what involves in Macs) is quite cheap, too..) But that's a good point... I'm thinking of getting some extra RAM - not just for this, but for all my graphics apps. It seems incredible to me that just a few years ago 512 Kb was all the range and more than enough for everything! :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R C-R Posted April 2, 2017 Share Posted April 2, 2017 It seems incredible to me that just a few years ago 512 Kb was all the range and more than enough for everything! :lol: I would like to think this was true just a few years ago -- I would not feel quite so old -- but the only computers I ever owned that could do anything with RAM in the KB range were 8 bit machines made by Commodore Business Machines. The last one I had was a C128, which they stopped making almost three decades ago! :( Quote All 3 1.10.8, & all 3 V23.0 Mac apps; 2020 iMac 27"; 3.8GHz i7, Radeon Pro 5700, 32GB RAM; macOS 10.15.7 Affinity Photo 1.10.8; Affinity Designer 1.108; & all 3 V2 apps for iPad; 6th Generation iPad 32 GB; Apple Pencil; iPadOS 15.7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mouse Posted April 2, 2017 Author Share Posted April 2, 2017 Well, lets just say I'm old enough to have been a teenager in the days when computers didn't even necessarily have screens ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
v_kyr Posted April 2, 2017 Share Posted April 2, 2017 Well, my first one was a slab which I've fortunalety won on a contest (...those days as a youngster didn't had the money to buy one myself). After having seen a Cube the very first time at an Adobe's CeBiT booth and playing around the whole day with that one (thanks for that to Adobe), I knew I needed one of those light years ahead computers. :) Some kind soul of Adobe those days introduced me there to "Budd Tribble" who was unofficially also there on CeBiT and happened to pass the Adobe stand. Mr. Tribble was able to show and tell me a little bit more about the NS machine (showed me how the IB worked etc.) and so infected me to wanting one of these computers. The slab I won later initially had just 8MB of RAM and a size limited 105MB SCSI Seagate hdd, which only contained the OS and some cool apps and tools. But that was overall too less hdd space for me, since I wanted to use and program with the NS dev tools etc., which all needed more space than 105MB. So I jobbed beside school for a Fujitsu HDD reseller and got one of the first 3.5" 500MB fast SCSI disks freshly new available from Fujitsu on the market (further also upgraded the slab's RAM to 32MB instead then). - Well to shorten things, that was my first computer at all, otherwise had just a pocket calculator! Quote ☛ Affinity Designer 1.10.8 ◆ Affinity Photo 1.10.8 ◆ Affinity Publisher 1.10.8 ◆ OSX El Capitan ☛ Affinity V2.3 apps ◆ MacOS Sonoma 14.2 ◆ iPad OS 17.2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R C-R Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 @Mouse & v_kyr You two are making me feel incredibly ancient! The first "personal" computer I played with was an unfinished Altair 8800 prototype somebody from MITS brought over to our shop in Albuquerque to show it to a co-owner who formerly worked for IBM. Not only did it not have a screen, it did not have a keyboard, or anything besides toggle switches for input & LED's for output! At that time, my teenage years were just a memory. :( Quote All 3 1.10.8, & all 3 V23.0 Mac apps; 2020 iMac 27"; 3.8GHz i7, Radeon Pro 5700, 32GB RAM; macOS 10.15.7 Affinity Photo 1.10.8; Affinity Designer 1.108; & all 3 V2 apps for iPad; 6th Generation iPad 32 GB; Apple Pencil; iPadOS 15.7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SrPx Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 Mine was this.. (you might have guessed by the avatar... I promise wasn't a pun with the cat thing, didn't know about the cats thing around here... ) ...48 kbytes... (1982, but I got it in 1985). before that I was just a total crazy fan of arcade machines at pubs and the like. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZX_Spectrum Even coded (and made first graphics) basic games... Later, a PC 286 (256 kb, I think...), but before that, used a lot of XTs (green and orange screen) at school and friends' homes. I was a teenager...But I jumped from there to the Pentium thing. (no 386, neither 486...) Quote AD, AP and APub. V1.10.6 and V2.3 Windows 10 and Windows 11. Ryzen 9 3900X, 32 GB RAM, RTX 3060 12GB, Wacom Intuos XL, Wacom L. Eizo ColorEdge CS 2420 monitor. Windows 10 Pro. HP Omen 16-b1010ns 12700H, 32GB DDR5 (corsair), nVidia RTX 3060 6GB + Huion Kamvas 22 pen display, Windows 11 Pro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
v_kyr Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 I recall that the first time I got in contact with programming was on an DEC VAX PDP system at a data center, those days they had mostly still typewriter like terminals (combined keyb & printer terminals) there, so also no display screens and a lot of wasting huge continious paper output. - No surprise one of my first programs written there (on that VAX) was then a cross-referencer for my prog-listings. :) Quote ☛ Affinity Designer 1.10.8 ◆ Affinity Photo 1.10.8 ◆ Affinity Publisher 1.10.8 ◆ OSX El Capitan ☛ Affinity V2.3 apps ◆ MacOS Sonoma 14.2 ◆ iPad OS 17.2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mouse Posted April 3, 2017 Author Share Posted April 3, 2017 That must have been what I used to see the older kids playing with when I was a newbie at upper school :) I'd never heard of computers back then (I was about 11), and I couldn't understand why all these older kids were getting so excited about producing a really long folding ribbon of punched paper that ended up in a cardboard box on the floor, and seemed to serve no purpose whatsoever! LOL! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R C-R Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 I'd never heard of computers back then (I was about 11), and I couldn't understand why all these older kids were getting so excited about producing a really long folding ribbon of punched paper that ended up in a cardboard box on the floor, and seemed to serve no purpose whatsoever! LOL! <sigh> I was in college before I saw anything like that, & it was the output of line printers connected to their newly acquired IBM mainframe computer (probably an IBM 370). It was a several million dollar installation that overall required about the same floor space as a modest two bedroom house. The only students that had access to it were the computer science majors, & that was limited to an adjacent small room with a couple of printers & keypunch terminals. They never got to run their own programs & usually did not get the results until the next day, so it was easy to tell them from the other students because they were the ones lugging around boxes of punchcards & printouts. Quote All 3 1.10.8, & all 3 V23.0 Mac apps; 2020 iMac 27"; 3.8GHz i7, Radeon Pro 5700, 32GB RAM; macOS 10.15.7 Affinity Photo 1.10.8; Affinity Designer 1.108; & all 3 V2 apps for iPad; 6th Generation iPad 32 GB; Apple Pencil; iPadOS 15.7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SrPx Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 My father (now retired) worked in the public administration, he actually worked in the times when the punched paper "cards" where used around here... The first computers to hit the service, it seems. But in '95 (still at college, ending) I went to my very first job ( I studied for too many years: college, and all those little extras one does because feels it all will get you a better job, lol) that company had an AS/400, a machine I believe is from 1988, working as the main company's server. Curiously, they had a "non-mac area" with the most archaic things (probably the AS/400 was the best thing they had, indeed) , plagued with mega old orange and green monitors' XTs, as all means of computers for office work (dBase in all its glory...)... And that elder videotex I had to make work with its network and even write some doc for the people to be able to use it, lol... Nice tasks for a graphic design/illustration intern, lol... But the design area was having quite up to date Macs...I guess they realized the production machines needed to be were the budget had to go. (A Quadra and 2 Classics, I believe). But the best was the hand painting studio for the photographer, lol... No wacom then.... Quote AD, AP and APub. V1.10.6 and V2.3 Windows 10 and Windows 11. Ryzen 9 3900X, 32 GB RAM, RTX 3060 12GB, Wacom Intuos XL, Wacom L. Eizo ColorEdge CS 2420 monitor. Windows 10 Pro. HP Omen 16-b1010ns 12700H, 32GB DDR5 (corsair), nVidia RTX 3060 6GB + Huion Kamvas 22 pen display, Windows 11 Pro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mouse Posted April 5, 2017 Author Share Posted April 5, 2017 I used dBase, Basic and Fortran when I first started work. Windows was still a couple of years down the road ;) Anyhow. My 10 day trial has run out, and since life has not allowed me to really put it through its paces I've made the decision to wait until the tablet problem is sorted out - that being the crux of the matter for me. There are other mitigating circumstances, like the fact that the electric bill has just arrived. I'll pop my head back in sometime around June or so, when I get my birthday money :) I was going to show you the only thing I managed to find time to create, but I can't work out your picture loading thingummy! LOL! No sweat - it wasn't that great. SrPx 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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