Charlychuck Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 The darker one had a milky haze Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pollux Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 Hello Chalrychuck,Try the de-haze filter times with these settings. With a mask and a few settings, it can look like this. One can also use the De-Haze filter with a mask. Pollux Charlychuck 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlychuck Posted January 27, 2017 Author Share Posted January 27, 2017 Thank you Pollux :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kodiak Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 • …a quickie in my RAW converter. No dehaze used! Quite overexposed and, at ISO 800, rather noisy! Quote www.kodiakmedia.at bureau@kodiakmedia.at TeamViewer: 668 015 544 Skype: kodiakonline If personal taste is involved, Light is free, Mother Nature provides the light discussion is pointless. capturing it is NOT. but talent renders the image. (Charlychuck) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pollux Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 Hello Kodiak,the route via the developer is the right way, so I would have done it.It was about the de-Haze filter and how to apply it correctly,You should know its software before you come to the conclusion, I prefer the developer.Adobe had it synonymous with its Photoshop CC version as well :-)Pollux Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Reeder Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 …a quickie in my RAW converter. No dehaze used! So what? This is about DeHaze, not you. :angry: Looks terrible, too - perfect proof that the job doesn't finish at the converter... Quote Keith Reeder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kodiak Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 Hello Kodiak, the route via the developer is the right way, so I would have done it. …‘abend Pollux! My suggestion to charlychuck was to propose an other strategy as I thought that "haze" was not the guilty point in this case but exposure. I just treated the picture for exposure difficulties and nothing else. My point was to illustrate this. It was about the de-Haze filter and how to apply it correctly, You should know its software before you come to the conclusion …'verstehe, aber… IMO, as much as I dig the dehaze tool, it is not the proper approach to resolve the exposure problem nor is it the right file to explain it… though you did demonstrate it well! — It is now to charlychuck to appreciate, evaluate the results and the strategies… no right no wrong, just options. :) jfleeman 1 Quote www.kodiakmedia.at bureau@kodiakmedia.at TeamViewer: 668 015 544 Skype: kodiakonline If personal taste is involved, Light is free, Mother Nature provides the light discussion is pointless. capturing it is NOT. but talent renders the image. (Charlychuck) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kodiak Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 So what? This is about DeHaze, not you. :angry: I personally have no ego issue in this as I propose a strategy, an approach to the rendition and I explain why. Looks terrible, too - perfect proof that the job doesn't finish at the converter... — "Looks terrible, too" You're right in this! This is no more adjustments to a file but heavy exposure repair! — "…perfect proof that the job doesn't finish at the converter..." So, that one really did hurt, right? I said that MY photographer's work ends in the converter and I maintain it. For publishing purpose, the clients may do what is ever needed (they should know, they bought it!) jfleeman 1 Quote www.kodiakmedia.at bureau@kodiakmedia.at TeamViewer: 668 015 544 Skype: kodiakonline If personal taste is involved, Light is free, Mother Nature provides the light discussion is pointless. capturing it is NOT. but talent renders the image. (Charlychuck) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmar Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 Hi Kodiak, Is there any chance you can get into more detail (in a new thread perhaps), your raw converter process? I have the free raw converter that Nikon provides for their raw files. I also have Lightroom4. I understand that LR4 uses something similar to Adobe Camera Raw. Should I be using the raw converter provided by Nikon for my nef photos and Sony Image Data Converter for my Sony photos? Very confusing :) Quote Skill Level: Beginner, digital photography, digital editing, lighting. Equipment: Consumer grade. Sony Nex5n, Nikon D5100, (16MP sony sensors) Paid Software: Affinity Photo, Affinity Designer, Lightroom4 Free Software: NIK collection, Sony CaptureOne9, Cyberlink PhotoDirector6, Hugin, ImageJ, MS Ice, Davinci Resolve Computer: Win10 home, CPU Skylake I7-6700, GPU Saphire HD7850 1G, Plextor SSD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kodiak Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 — "Free Software: NIK collection, Sony CaptureOne9, Cyberlink PhotoDirector6, Hugin, ImageJ, MS Ice, DaVinci Resolve" Hello rmar, In that list, Capture One v.9 for Sony is your better bet… by far, IMO! I use the Pro version as my gear is Nikon. RAW processing is no magic and, quite like Affinity for the quality and diversity, CO9 has lots of tutorial videos readily available on their site. I recommend CaptureOne to all my students and none is thinking of any other for multiple files processing. Though I never do so, it can work in catalogue mode as well, but I prefer in sessions. If you have just a single file to process, Affinity Photo is an other option. It has become my main pixel editor. Since all my shoots produce a fair number of files, as con- verter and with it's in the actual limitation, I prefer to use a dedicated RAW converter that will permit faster processing of all these sessions. Workflow? DRL* and WB are the two first steps. * DRL = Dynamic Range Levels = black and white points setting. Have a good time! jfleeman 1 Quote www.kodiakmedia.at bureau@kodiakmedia.at TeamViewer: 668 015 544 Skype: kodiakonline If personal taste is involved, Light is free, Mother Nature provides the light discussion is pointless. capturing it is NOT. but talent renders the image. (Charlychuck) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmar Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 Thanks for the feedback. Quote Skill Level: Beginner, digital photography, digital editing, lighting. Equipment: Consumer grade. Sony Nex5n, Nikon D5100, (16MP sony sensors) Paid Software: Affinity Photo, Affinity Designer, Lightroom4 Free Software: NIK collection, Sony CaptureOne9, Cyberlink PhotoDirector6, Hugin, ImageJ, MS Ice, Davinci Resolve Computer: Win10 home, CPU Skylake I7-6700, GPU Saphire HD7850 1G, Plextor SSD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pollux Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 Hello Kodiak,Everything right, the way about the developer is also my opinion the rightWhen learning is the aspect, time is money and business is not so important,But it is important to deal creatively with the given applications in a software, it is a learning process.I find a very important aspect.Pollux Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kodiak Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 When learning is the aspect, time is money and business is not so important, But it is important to deal creatively with the given applications in a software, it is a learning process. I can read your German accent as others may read my French one! :P :D :lol: Quote www.kodiakmedia.at bureau@kodiakmedia.at TeamViewer: 668 015 544 Skype: kodiakonline If personal taste is involved, Light is free, Mother Nature provides the light discussion is pointless. capturing it is NOT. but talent renders the image. (Charlychuck) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlychuck Posted January 28, 2017 Author Share Posted January 28, 2017 I have just caught up with my post and I would like to thank Kodiak for his reply ( it made me think for myself and gave me better understanding of my problems) The input about using de-haze was also appreciated . Finally Please no Chihuahua's on my posts thanks :) :) :) ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kodiak Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 …gave me better understanding of my problems… That's all I was aiming for… happy it helped! Quote www.kodiakmedia.at bureau@kodiakmedia.at TeamViewer: 668 015 544 Skype: kodiakonline If personal taste is involved, Light is free, Mother Nature provides the light discussion is pointless. capturing it is NOT. but talent renders the image. (Charlychuck) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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