Stan Carmichael Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 I am attempting to reduce or eliminate Adobe from my workflow. I have encountered a problem when exporting scanned images from Affinity Photo to Capture One. It seems that the .tif files contain an alpha channel that is not compatible with Capture One. This is not the case when exporting from Lightroom or Photoshop (both due for replacement). Has anyone else encountered this issue? Can you suggest solution? Thanks, Stan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kodiak Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 I am attempting to reduce or eliminate Adobe from my workflow. …music to my ears! I have encountered a problem when exporting scanned images from Affinity Photo to Capture One. Did you click the "open tiff files" option in C1 preferences? Quote www.kodiakmedia.at bureau@kodiakmedia.at TeamViewer: 668 015 544 Skype: kodiakonline If personal taste is involved, Light is free, Mother Nature provides the light discussion is pointless. capturing it is NOT. but talent renders the image. (Charlychuck) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Reeder Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 …music to my ears! But entirely irrelevant to the question being asked... Quote Keith Reeder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kodiak Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 But entirely irrelevant to the question being asked... The comment is a comment… just approving as I did the same move three years ago. I offered Stan a possible hint, did you? SaorAlba 1 Quote www.kodiakmedia.at bureau@kodiakmedia.at TeamViewer: 668 015 544 Skype: kodiakonline If personal taste is involved, Light is free, Mother Nature provides the light discussion is pointless. capturing it is NOT. but talent renders the image. (Charlychuck) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan Carmichael Posted December 24, 2016 Author Share Posted December 24, 2016 Bonjour Kodiak, Yes 'enable Tiff editing' is selected. I believe the problem is with the 'alpha channel'. Other {not to be mentioned} application's tiff exports open just fine. Stan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AiDon Posted December 24, 2016 Share Posted December 24, 2016 The latest version of Capture One Pro (v10) has improved TIFF handling capabilities. Quote Both PC’s Win 11 x64 System with Intuos Pen & Touch PC1 ASUS ROG Strix - AMD Ryzen 9 6900X CPU @ 3.3GHz. 32GB RAM- GPU 1: AMD Radeon integrated. GPU 2: NVIDIA RTX 3060, 6GB PC2 HP Pavilion - Intel® Core™ i7-7700HQ CPU @ 2.80GHz (8 CPUs), 16GB RAM - GPU 1: Intel HD Graphics 630, GPU 2: NVIDIA GTX1050, 4GBiPad (8th Gen) 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kodiak Posted December 24, 2016 Share Posted December 24, 2016 Yes 'enable Tiff editing' is selected. • Salut Stan! Then, I see only one solution: the problem is in the export of AP, click to check this tiny box! …hope that helps! Quote www.kodiakmedia.at bureau@kodiakmedia.at TeamViewer: 668 015 544 Skype: kodiakonline If personal taste is involved, Light is free, Mother Nature provides the light discussion is pointless. capturing it is NOT. but talent renders the image. (Charlychuck) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan Carmichael Posted December 24, 2016 Author Share Posted December 24, 2016 Thanks for the help Kodiak, Unfortunately, I had already tried that. The files are scans from an Epson using VueScan, if that helps further. I need a film solution as well as electronic capture in the workflow, perhaps I expect too much. Stan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jorismak Posted December 24, 2016 Share Posted December 24, 2016 I think AP always sees itself as RGBA even if your background layer isn't set to transparency. A bit weird but OK. I find it weirder that C1 just doesn't work with alpha channel files apparently ? Just ignoring the alpha would be enough :). In the document menu or layer menu is an option to enable or disable background layer being transparent. Maybe that helps in the export. Otherwise a quick imagemagick command to strip the alpha channel (or something similar ) is required . For what it's worth , I work with negative raw scans from vuescan as well and it works fine in AP (auto level / curves not having an auto mode with threshold is a bit of a pain, and supporting colorperfect would be icing on the cake ) but I can invert, fix balance (with help of Nik Color Efex) and fix defects with the help of the IR channel all fine within AP... .. PS just works a bit easier and faster for this stuff I find. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan Carmichael Posted December 25, 2016 Author Share Posted December 25, 2016 Thanks jorismak, I have been in this industry for a long time, I sometimes yearn for the good old days before standard platforms, then I remember the price we paid for closed loop systems. Fortunately I was selling them and got paid commission... I have no issue processing the files in Affinity Photo and also use Nik software when needed. I am favouring the raw conversion in Capture One for my NEF files and want to keep a unified file system for electronic-capture and scanned files. Using LR for this task alone seems a waste of energy and I am not a fan of cloud-based solutions. I don't think the issue is with Affinity Photo alone, the files from VueScan don't open in Capture One as well. It may well be a unique implementation in Capture One. Again, I think I ask too much. And thanks to you and Kodiak for your supportive response. I'll keep you posted if and when I find an 'Adobe-Free' solution. Stan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Reeder Posted December 25, 2016 Share Posted December 25, 2016 I am not a fan of cloud-based solutions. Lightroom and PhotoShop are no more "cloud based" than is Affinity Photo. I'll keep you posted if and when I find an 'Adobe-Free' solution. And again - this is off topic and irrelevant: your personal "issues" with Adobe are of no significance here. Pointless, needless Adobe-bashing is a recipe for a thread disintegrating into a flame-fest, and nobody needs to know (or cares about) your personal motivations for using Capture One and Affinity Photo. This forum exists for discussion of Affinity products, not for you to exercise your anti Adobe agenda... Quote Keith Reeder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulAffinity Posted December 25, 2016 Share Posted December 25, 2016 Wow, merry Xmas Keith Reeder! I thought everyone on every post has an 'anti-adobe'agenda - whether blatantly or not. It is (one of the reasons) why many of us bought AP. Ironic really as AP by its own existence is 'anti-adobe'. I don't see why looking for a 'non-adobe' solution is an issue. Many of us are looking to maximise value while minimizing cost. A merry Xmas to all! Cheers P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kodiak Posted December 25, 2016 Share Posted December 25, 2016 Wow, merry Xmas Keith Reeder! I thought everyone on every post has an 'anti-adobe'agenda - whether blatantly or not. It is (one of the reasons) why many of us bought AP. Ironic really as AP by its own existence is 'anti-adobe'. I don't see why looking for a 'non-adobe' solution is an issue. Many of us are looking to maximise value while minimizing cost. A merry Xmas to all! Cheers P +1 This being the second time I read something off (in my opinion too) from Keith. All the best for the new year Paul, Keith, Stan and AiDon! PaulAffinity 1 Quote www.kodiakmedia.at bureau@kodiakmedia.at TeamViewer: 668 015 544 Skype: kodiakonline If personal taste is involved, Light is free, Mother Nature provides the light discussion is pointless. capturing it is NOT. but talent renders the image. (Charlychuck) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kodiak Posted December 25, 2016 Share Posted December 25, 2016 and nobody needs to know (or cares about) your personal motivations for using Capture One and Affinity Photo. • I for one certainly do as these considerations are the prime ingredients in establishing an easy going workflow! PaulAffinity and R C-R 2 Quote www.kodiakmedia.at bureau@kodiakmedia.at TeamViewer: 668 015 544 Skype: kodiakonline If personal taste is involved, Light is free, Mother Nature provides the light discussion is pointless. capturing it is NOT. but talent renders the image. (Charlychuck) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jorismak Posted December 25, 2016 Share Posted December 25, 2016 Ignoring the stupid rants in this thread, about the real problem: Affinity Photo exports tiff files without an alpha channel if the document doens't need one. In the Document menu, uncheck 'transparent background'. And in the TIFF export dialog, click 'more' and there is an option for the matte to be used. It defaults to 'transparent' color (white with a red line through it). If you select another color there, Affinity makes all (possible) transparent areas that color and exports a TIFF file without transparency, regular RGB. This all being said, I created a new document in Affinity and exported it with an alpha channel and one without. And both import fine into Capture One 9 here. Transparent areas are made black though. So I don't understand your issue. Files open file here. If I process scans from VueScan in Affinity One, I go to the 'channels' tab, right-click the 'Background Alpha' channel and click 'Fill' and the alpha / transparency is gone. Or I right-click it and click 'to grayscale layer' and I have the IR data in a separate layer to use (and then right-click and click 'fill' to remove the transparency effect). If I export it to tiff, the files open fine in Capture One 9 here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan Carmichael Posted December 25, 2016 Author Share Posted December 25, 2016 More Great Advise jorismak, Thank You. I now have my Boxing Day project. I am using Capture One 10, perhaps I will try defaulting to the '9' engine, didn't consider that. Hope you all have a Merry Christmas, Stan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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