The launch-time of AD needs more time than Illustrator

[manroe]

Hi, launching AD takes more time than Illustrator need. Could this be enhanced ?

[Chris B]

Hey manroe,

I've just been doing some tests, these are my results from a cold start:

- AD on Windows takes 9 seconds

- AD on Mac takes 2-3 seconds
 

- Illustrator on Windows takes 11 seconds

- Illustrator on the Mac takes 8 seconds

So my end we are a bit quicker than Illustrator. I've read that quite a few people are experiencing slow load times for Windows Designer. Some in the region of 20-30 seconds when using lower end hardware. 

What kind of results are you seeing? What spec is your machine? I might add I have it installed on an SSD.

[manroe]

I work with the latest WIN 10 on a laptop with SSD and I7, its an ASUS Taichi.

Illustrator takes 5 seconds, AD 7seconds

[manroe]

Now fresh restartet Illustrator 3 seconds and AD 7 seconds again

[manroe]

Completely fresh startet the laptop launching AD 12 seconds and Illustrator 5

[Patrick Connor]

Could this be enhanced ?

 

Perhaps, but in comparison to others who are reporting times of up to a minute, 12 seconds is not so long. If we can improve matters for them yours may reduce.

 

Personally I don't think that start-up time is the best way to judge software that's so good you don't want to stop using it ;)

[manroe]

... I never would stop, using AD :-)

[Mark Ingram]

I've just done some analysis on our startup time, and I can see some areas which could be improved. I might not have time to fix them before release, but I will do it at some point. In theory it should make it over twice as fast to start up...

[Bhikkhu Pesala]

About 30 seconds for a cold start here (build 28) on my system, and about 12 seconds for a warm restart. Loading one small file from last session. 

 

Specs AMD A10-6800K, 8 Gb on Win 7 64-bit

[MikeW]

I've just done some analysis on our startup time, and I can see some areas which could be improved. I might not have time to fix them before release, but I will do it at some point. In theory it should make it over twice as fast to start up...

 

Excellent, Mark. Thank you.

 

Mike

[Marf]

There is something strange. On my machine (Dell m3800 with System SSD and additional EVO 850 SSD, Win 10) it takes 58secs(!) to start. I also was the one with the slow persona panel update which is fixed now and works as smooth as the rest of the application. But the general loading time of the app is much too slow... I install all the programms on the second ssd. Can this be an issue? Thanks...

[Chris B]

Hey Marf, as Mark said he will be looking into reducing the startup time. 58 seconds is certainly excessive, especially on an SSD. I did some tests at home and at work and I found that on average, the app opens in 8 seconds on an SSD and a standard HDD took me around 14 seconds. Does it take 58 seconds every single time or just from the first load after a fresh boot?

[barnettgs]

For me, it takes around 25 seconds (cold-start) on i5-6500 system with 16 GB RAM & 500 GB HDD, Windows 10 Pro.

 

Could it have to do with using a different or older version of Microsoft Visual C++ Redistributable?

[Checkmate]

I'm getting the following startup times on my i3 with SSD and 10GB RAM:

 

AD cold - 28s

AD warm - 24s

 

Ai CS4 cold - 14s

Ai CS4 warm - 10s

 

I'd definitely appreciate the fixes Mark mentioned above.

[Willabong]

Ordinary 1 terr hard drive, AMD Athlon 6 core 3500 mhz, 32 gig ram.

 

20 sec cold start.

10 sec warm start.

 

I don't worry about trivialities that involve seconds, the program starts up fast enough for me, all I care about is usability, and AD has nailed that!

[Marf]

Hey, interesting news. I used the "Process Monitor" from Sysinternals to see what Affinity is doing while starting on my ssd. And the most time it reads repeatingly a custom display calibration file in "C:\WINDOWS\System32\spool\drivers\color" called "CalibratedDisplayProfile-4.icc". It is a custom created profile with the windows system color calibration for my laptop lcd...

 

I just deleted this (and the other never used custom profiles) manually.

 

And, belive it or not: Affinity starts in 10 secs, hurray

 

Than I calibrated the display again what results in a new calibration file. But now it doesn't affect the loading time.

 

Perhaps it's a hint for the developers to handle this potential issue...

 

Thanks

[barnettgs]

And, belive it or not: Affinity starts in 10 secs, hurray

 

That was a good find.

 

After reading your post, I decided to take a look at the Colour Management via Advanced Display Settings on Windows 10 and under Devices tab, I ticked 'Use my settings for this device' box and afterward, Affinity started in just 10 seconds.

[Chris B]

@Marf, that's interesting. I did the same thing on my home PC and noticed an improvement too. I'll look into it some more when I'm back in the office. Thanks :)

[Alfred]

That was a good find.

 

After reading your post, I decided to take a look at the Colour Management via Advanced Display Settings on Windows 10 and under Devices tab, I ticked 'Use my settings for this device' box and afterward, Affinity started in just 10 seconds.

 

Thanks for the tip. It wasn't quite as little as ten seconds here, but it was very much faster than it had been.

[Pixelplucker]

I believe it might be due to the number of fonts you have in your system. AD and most programs use the systems font folder and not sure if Adobe fixed their software but Illustrator used to have it's own fonts folder. Using the systems font folder is the best option so a cold start of the program would be longer, this is true with any of the applications I use that use standard system setup and sequential starts should be much faster since that would be cached already.

 

The Techies at Serif maybe able to yay or nay that.

[Alfred]

I believe it might be due to the number of fonts you have in your system.

 

I only have a few hundred fonts installed here, so it seems unlikely that their presence would cause such long delays. In any case, I can't imagine one's colour management settings affecting the time taken to populate the font cache.

[MikeW]

I have no idea why the above procedure works, but it does. My start time is down to 15 seconds on a cold start.

[verysame]

System specs:

 

Operating System

Windows 7 Professional 64-bit SP1

 

CPU

Intel Xeon E5 v2 @ 2.10GHz 34 °C

Ivy Bridge-EP/EX 22nm Technology

Intel Xeon E5 v2 @ 2.10GHz 35 °C

Ivy Bridge-EP/EX 22nm Technology

 

RAM

32.0GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 799MHz (11-11-11-28)

 

Motherboard

ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. Z9PA-D8 Series (Socket-R 2011) 42 °C

 

Graphics

ASUS PB238 (1920x1080@60Hz)

3071MB NVIDIA Quadro K4000 (NVIDIA) 38 °C

ASPEED Technology Standard VGA Graphics Adapter (ASUStek Computer Inc)

ForceWare version: 369.26

SLI Disabled

 

Storage

232GB Samsung SSD 840 EVO 250GB ATA Device (SSD) 34 °C

2794GB Hitachi HGST HDN724030ALE640 ATA Device (SATA) 34 °C

 

 

 

Results:

 

Photo (1.5.0.38)

C:\Program Files\Affinity\Affinity Photo Public Beta\Photo.exe - 3 executions

19.5603

19.3784

19.4199

C:\Program Files\Affinity\Affinity Designer\Designer.exe - 3 executions

21.3373

21.2844

21.2656

C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Photoshop CS6 (64 Bit)\Photoshop.exe - 3 executions

0.3897

0.0995

0.0931

C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Photoshop CS6 (64 Bit)\Photoshop.exe - 3 executions

0.0942

0.0932

0.0617

C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Illustrator CS6 (64 Bit)\Support Files\Contents\Windows\Illustrator.exe - 2 executions

0.1088

0.0147

 

Photo (1.5.0.39)

C:\Program Files\Affinity\Affinity Photo Public Beta\Photo.exe - 3 executions

20.1537

20.0158

19.8554

 

 

Affinity programs run way slower than Adobe.

That said, I personally don't mind particularly about start-up time.

Should I choose, I'd definitely improve the overall performance (which I know is already planned), as that affects my actual work more than start-up.

[Novak]

Takes a minute to load on my gf's laptop. This is a problem and I hope it gets fixed.