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Just a bit puzzled here. I'm labeling screenshots in Designer and then using them in Serif Page Plus.

 

Both appear to be set the British(UK) English - at least they both tell me that Color is miss spelt.

 

However, the words Calliper and Caliper appear to cause a  conflict! PagePlus insists it has two Ls (an "alternative" UK spelling), Designer insists it has one L.

 

Do programs each provide their own dictionaries? Can I set either program up to share the dictionary of the other?

 

(You can tell I have work I should be getting on with :-) )

 

 

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Hi Jeffjn,

 

You can set the language for the Dictionary in the Character tab attached :) When this is set to English Colour and Calliper both shows the correct spellings :)

 

 

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Humm...

 

Well on my setups, they don't. in the screenshot, the PagePlus version is above (and in my opinion correct) and the Affinity one is below, and differs from what you say you see in your post.

 

I admit this is a very trivial thing, I just am puzzled :-)

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Hi Jeffjn,

 

If you go to Affinity Designer > Preferences > General you should see a languages drop down what is yours currently set to?

 

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English (UK) as per the screenshot.

 

(Word seems to agree with PagePlus)

 

Maybe this is just an error/discrepancy in the dictionary provided. I thought that maybe they would be common dictionaries. But if you are seeing Calliper as wrong with Designer set to UK, then it must be my setup.

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Sorry to resurrect this thread, but can't seem to find another related post. So... how do you add other Dictionaries / Language packs to Designer? :) (I'm talking about extra languages, that are not present on that dropdown in the language selector).


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4 hours ago, WhiteX said:

So... how do you add other Dictionaries / Language packs to Designer?

You don't. Support for different languages has to be built into the app so that for example tool names & other UI elements appear in that language. 


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12 hours ago, R C-R said:

You don't. Support for different languages has to be built into the app so that for example tool names & other UI elements appear in that language. 

 

We’re talking about two different things here. Support for UI languages has to be built in, but spellchecking need not be limited to those languages. Serif PagePlus, for example, has (as supplied by Serif rather than WinSoft International) never offered more than four UI languages; however, the dictionaries for spellchecking the text in a document have long covered about a dozen languages, and latterly there has been a Hunspell option allowing the installation of additional dictionaries for many more languages.


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1 hour ago, Alfred said:

Support for UI languages has to be built in, but spellchecking need not be limited to those languages.

True, but that depends at least in part on built-in support from the OS for multiple dictionaries.


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45 minutes ago, R C-R said:

True, but that depends at least in part on built-in support from the OS for multiple dictionaries.

Not necessarily the OS. The app could use a standard spell checker such as Hunspell, which already supports multiple dictionaries and allows users to create and/or install them.


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3 minutes ago, IanSG said:

I'm not at my PC at the moment, but AD has an option to specify a folder for additional dictionaries.

 

Preferences > Tools

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It's the same in Photo.

 


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11 hours ago, walt.farrell said:

The app could use a standard spell checker such as Hunspell, which already supports multiple dictionaries and allows users to create and/or install them.

So the question now is what format do the Affinity programs expect the dictionaries to be in?  I've tried a couple of Hunspell ones and they didn't work.

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Looking at the dictionaries that Affinity is supplied with, it seems they are Hunspell!  Just make sure the dictionaries are in the correct folder structure!


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On 4/24/2018 at 2:28 PM, IanSG said:

So the question now is what format do the Affinity programs expect the dictionaries to be in?  I've tried a couple of Hunspell ones and they didn't work.

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Looking at the dictionaries that Affinity is supplied with, it seems they are Hunspell!  Just make sure the dictionaries are in the correct folder structure!

 

That's promising. If there's anyone who succeeded with the addition of extra dictionaries to the spell checker, please let us know. How did you do it?


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It's easy!  The Hunspell dictionaries are provided as 2 files named something like aa_AA.aff and aa_AA.dic.  These files are placed in a folder called aa_AA which is under the additional dictionaries folder.  "aa_AA" is just an example - the actual filenames will depend on which language you're using.  Some of the dictionaries are supplied as .xpi files - these are Thunderbird addons.  In reality they're just zip files, so you just need to rename the file extension to .zip and then unpack them.

 

You can find a load of dictionaries here and here.


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Hi, I tried this and it didn't work..

I created a new folder: C:\ProgramData\Affinity\Common\1.0\Dictionaries\Lithuanian 

And added two files in it: Lithuanian.aff and Lithuanian.dic

I downloaded those files as @IanSG has advised from https://addons.mozilla.org/en-GB/thunderbird/language-tools/ (renamed the .xpi file to .zip and extracted)

I restarted Affinity but do not see Lithuanian in Character -> Language drop-down.

Did it work for anyone?

 

 

 

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49 minutes ago, neilazas said:

Hi, I tried this and it didn't work..

I created a new folder: C:\ProgramData\Affinity\Common\1.0\Dictionaries\Lithuanian 

And added two files in it: Lithuanian.aff and Lithuanian.dic

I downloaded those files as @IanSG has advised from https://addons.mozilla.org/en-GB/thunderbird/language-tools/ (renamed the .xpi file to .zip and extracted)

I restarted Affinity but do not see Lithuanian in Character -> Language drop-down.

Did it work for anyone?

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Actually, it does work :) I show in my example: I've created a pl-PL folder inside "C:\ProgramData\Affinity\Common\1.0\Dictionaries\" and extracted .aff and .dic from the link above. Restart AD and works. 

I think in your case, you have to create an lt-LT folder (I suppose this is a shortcode) and should works to you too.


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8 minutes ago, Corny said:

I think in your case, you have to create an lt-LT folder (I suppose this is a shortcode) and should works to you too.

That's where I went wrong when I first tried this - the folder names have to be correct.


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On 4/27/2018 at 12:50 AM, IanSG said:

It's easy!  The Hunspell dictionaries are provided as 2 files named something like aa_AA.aff and aa_AA.dic.  These files are placed in a folder called aa_AA which is under the additional dictionaries folder.  "aa_AA" is just an example - the actual filenames will depend on which language you're using.  Some of the dictionaries are supplied as .xpi files - these are Thunderbird addons.  In reality they're just zip files, so you just need to rename the file extension to .zip and then unpack them.

 

You can find a load of dictionaries here and here.

The second link seems to be for Thunderbird only. Is it possible to use it for other apps?


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Once you've done the renaming / unpacking you'll have the .dic files - you can use these in any program that supports Hunspell dictionaries.


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6 hours ago, IanSG said:

Once you've done the renaming / unpacking you'll have the .dic files - you can use these in any program that supports Hunspell dictionaries.

I can't find the option to download them, also. Do I have to pay for them? I think they are free, but maybe I have mistaken.


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3 hours ago, Petar Petrenko said:

I can't find the option to download them

The link in my answer gives you this:-

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And following that link gives this:-

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3 hours ago, Petar Petrenko said:

Do I have to pay for them? I think they are free, but maybe I have mistaken.

I think they're free, too - I use Thunderbird and I've never seen an add-on that wasn't free, or any way of paying for one if it wasn't!


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