NBG Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 Hi, i've added a red outline via Effects->Outline and now need another one around. How can i do that? Convert the text (incl. red outline) to curves and add another outline? Any other way to keep the text and do no convert? Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
armadillo Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 You could use a stroke for the text and then add an outline effect. See attached doc. outlines.afdesign Alfred and NBG 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NBG Posted October 17, 2016 Author Share Posted October 17, 2016 Hi armadillo, yes this works... but how to make the first outline transparent for example? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeW Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 Try the following. It's a bit of a hassle without having an Offset for contours or outlines. The text in the attached file is still live text. Mike outline.afdesign Alfred and NBG 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NBG Posted October 17, 2016 Author Share Posted October 17, 2016 @MikeW: This is great! Didn't know that i can change the settings of each effect with the gear symbol. And a last question (this time it's allowed to convert the text to curves/grouping, not further editing of the single chars necessary): How can create a text like above and add two outlines which i can edit later (colour/transparency AND thickness of each outline, also the colour of the text)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeW Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 You can change the thickness of the outline by moving the gradient sliders. I don't understand the part about individual letters. What I uploaded can edit the text itself. The colors can be changed. There is no other outline property on the text itself. You can also use an outline on the text, but set its color to the same as anything behind it, then add the outline FX. Only issue is it can be difficult to match the "transparent" aspect of the outline on the text in the case of changing colors behind the text (like a gradient, across multiple objects of different colors, etc.). Really, this type of design from what I understand of the now changing requirements should be done in an application that has the ability of doing what you want to accomplish. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NBG Posted October 17, 2016 Author Share Posted October 17, 2016 Hi MikeW, i'm sure AD is good enough to solve this job. What i need is to create a logo and use it as a "template logo" (so i can later change the colour of the chars/outlines). Let's take these 2 t-shirts for example: Black shirt: Grey chars, black (transparent) spacing, white outline -> the printing house uses only pantone grey + white. White shirt: Red chars, white (transparent) spacing, black outline -> the printing house uses only pantone red + black. So it would be nice to put the logos on a transparent background and make the spacings also transparent. Of course the printing house don't care if the spacings are not transparent... So in the end i just need the following options: - the colour of the chars must be editable - the colour and thickness of the spacing must be changeable - the colour and thickness of the outline must be changeable - the original text must not be editable anymore (so can be transformed to curves or be grouped) In your example i can't set the colour of the chars or the outline?! :( Also the thickness of the spacing is always equal to the outline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
armadillo Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 See attached file. It uses 3 text elements layered such that the middle element is set to "Erase" to allow transparency. outlines.afdesign Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeW Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 armadillo, I'm afraid that while creative, the transparency will causer the entire group to be rasterized. Which means that the "hole" between the outer outline and the inner type will all become one image. The "hole" will be rasterized to the color of the background. I don't think there is an easy means of doing this in AD. One cane keep the text itself live, but there needs to be two copies made and the outlines converted and the inner one subtracted from the outer one. Which actually creates the space. There are only two objects, the text and the outer shape that represents the outline. This outputs as vector, truly allowing the background to show through. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
armadillo Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 armadillo, I'm afraid that while creative, the transparency will causer the entire group to be rasterized. Which means that the "hole" between the outer outline and the inner type will all become one image. The "hole" will be rasterized to the color of the background. Sure, but what is the problem with that? I thought the idea was to preserve editability and saving the file in AD retains that feature. The OP specifically stated that the printing house does not care about transparency. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeW Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 Because once it rasterizes, what you see as transparent is now filled with color. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
armadillo Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 One of us is misunderstanding the intent of the question then. If the printing house doesn't care about transparency, then I assume that the file will be rendered as a PNG or TIFF with transparency. The printing house will then receive the TIFF for printing or an EPS/PDF rendered from the TIFF/PNG. As I understand it, the OP just wanted to retain editability for himself, not the printing house. But I may misunderstand what he wants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeW Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 I dunno know if you have tried an export or not. But try it. Also, the colored shapes should be print ready and they need colored with Pantone. If not, they will be loaded into a vector editing application--likely either CorelDraw or AI--and recolored. It isn't going to happen with a PNG. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
armadillo Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 Yes, I have tried exporting and I see no problems with either PNG or TIFF. While PNG does not support Pantone, TIFF should work. Hopefully, the OP can chime in. If he indeed needs to provide a vector file, then AD won't be able to retain full editability as text. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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