paolo.limoncelli Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 Hi! When I launched AP for the first time I said to me "Wow! Finally a RAW developer with grain control since 1.0 version!". I think it is one of the most underestimated functions, useful not only in RAW development, but in graphic/concept design and rendering too. I tend to use it frequently in concept paintings and illustrations too, in order to increase the analog look. In future releases (even 2.x ones) I'd love to see improvements of Noise/Grain addition. These are few suggestions: Possibility to have a global multiplier for the effect Ability to control HMS distribution of grain Size control, to match the perfect balance with resolution Crispness (or Micro contrast) of grain to act with a sort of "posterisation" such as I used to do with chemicals in the darkroom Presets to save these settings together and mimic film/development combo Cheers :) Roger C, ronnyb, p382c and 1 other 4 Quote The white dog, making tools for artists, illustrators and doodlers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fixx Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 There once was a free plugin for PS called Lumpy noise. It was very useful though not very versatile. We need texture generators like that. paolo.limoncelli 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronnyb Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 Great ideas Paolo. I've posted on the forums about my distaste for the term "noise" because it is really not what we need as artists and is more of an "engineering" concept. Being single pixel and totally "digital" in nature, Noise, at least as most commonly implemented in software, is not enough, and your suggestions for all the parameters we need for GRAIN really explains that difference. Bravisimo, well said! ;) Hi! When I launched AP for the first time I said to me "Wow! Finally a RAW developer with grain control since 1.0 version!". I think it is one of the most underestimated functions, useful not only in RAW development, but in graphic/concept design and rendering too. I tend to use it frequently in concept paintings and illustrations too, in order to increase the analog look. In future releases (even 2.x ones) I'd love to see improvements of Noise/Grain addition. These are few suggestions: Possibility to have a global multiplier for the effect Ability to control HMS distribution of grain Size control, to match the perfect balance with resolution Crispness (or Micro contrast) of grain to act with a sort of "posterisation" such as I used to do with chemicals in the darkroom Presets to save these settings together and mimic film/development combo Cheers :) Roger C, A_B_C and paolo.limoncelli 3 Quote 2021 16” Macbook Pro w/ M1 Max 10c cpu /24c gpu, 32 GB RAM, 1TB SSD, Ventura 13.6 2018 11" iPad Pro w/ A12X cpu/gpu, 256 GB, iPadOS 17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paolo.limoncelli Posted October 11, 2016 Author Share Posted October 11, 2016 @ronnyb Ah ah! Thanks! My english level is not good enough to claim anything about naming :D Today I think that noise is the right term due to its nature. Moving toward a "Grain" concept could need a renaming for sure. I left Gaussian/Colour checks there, but maybe to reach that sort of controls they need other algorithms... Perlin maybe? Or even hi-resolution samples from real films... @Fixx Never heard about Lumpy... I'll check. ronnyb 1 Quote The white dog, making tools for artists, illustrators and doodlers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronnyb Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 Yeah Paolo I would love to have both digital noise AND grain creation tools. Both have their purpose and uses. But grain is SOOO important in a photo conpositing app when trying to match elements from different sources and resized to different scales... LilleG and paolo.limoncelli 2 Quote 2021 16” Macbook Pro w/ M1 Max 10c cpu /24c gpu, 32 GB RAM, 1TB SSD, Ventura 13.6 2018 11" iPad Pro w/ A12X cpu/gpu, 256 GB, iPadOS 17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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