r91085 Posted September 10, 2016 Share Posted September 10, 2016 Font type name of non-English doesn't display correct name in font list bar . It is difficult to distinguish them. DPX8 doesn't has this issue.... DavidCom 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff MEB Posted September 10, 2016 Staff Share Posted September 10, 2016 Hi r91085, Welcome to Affinity Forums :) In which font(s) are you seeing this issue or it's a general? A Guide to Learning Affinity Software Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamStanislav Posted September 10, 2016 Share Posted September 10, 2016 To me the major problem with the font list is that it only shows the names of the fonts in the fonts themselves, so you cannot see the names of fonts that place dingbats or other graphics in place of letters, as in this capture: It would make more sense to display the name of each font in the regular system font followed by same in the font itself. That way we could both read the names of the fonts and see what they look like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Ingram Posted September 10, 2016 Share Posted September 10, 2016 Yes, if it's a symbol font we shouldn't use the font for previewing. Font names should be localised is its available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alfred Posted September 10, 2016 Share Posted September 10, 2016 The thing is, Mark, these usually aren't symbol fonts as such. They're generally just ordinary fonts which happen to have dingbats (or Ancient Hebrew characters, or whatever) rather than letterforms from a modern alphabet. Sometimes the name of the font will include letters for which there aren't any glyphs in the font itself, so you'll end up with spaces or .notdef glyphs in the displayed name. Displaying the font name in the regular system font and the font itself, as Adam suggests, would probably take up too much space at a legible size, but perhaps you could tackle the problem by putting the font name in a tooltip. Alfred Affinity Designer/Photo/Publisher 2 for Windows • Windows 10 Home/Pro Affinity Designer/Photo/Publisher 2 for iPad • iPadOS 17.5.1 (iPad 7th gen) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Ingram Posted September 10, 2016 Share Posted September 10, 2016 The macOS version correctly identifies these types of fonts, so we should be able to as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamStanislav Posted September 10, 2016 Share Posted September 10, 2016 Displaying the font name in the regular system font and the font itself, as Adam suggests, would probably take up too much space at a legible size, but perhaps you could tackle the problem by putting the font name in a tooltip. Maybe something like this, then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alfred Posted September 11, 2016 Share Posted September 11, 2016 That would certainly be better than what we have now. :) Alfred Affinity Designer/Photo/Publisher 2 for Windows • Windows 10 Home/Pro Affinity Designer/Photo/Publisher 2 for iPad • iPadOS 17.5.1 (iPad 7th gen) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alfred Posted September 11, 2016 Share Posted September 11, 2016 The macOS version correctly identifies these types of fonts, so we should be able to as well. I'd be interested to know whether either version can distinguish between Adam's nice 'Crusader' dingbats and an ordinary Latin text font, but I suspect not. AdamStanislav 1 Alfred Affinity Designer/Photo/Publisher 2 for Windows • Windows 10 Home/Pro Affinity Designer/Photo/Publisher 2 for iPad • iPadOS 17.5.1 (iPad 7th gen) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r91085 Posted September 12, 2016 Author Share Posted September 12, 2016 Hi r91085, Welcome to Affinity Forums :) In which font(s) are you seeing this issue or it's a general? My all application including Drawplus display font name in Chinese But In AD it show them in english , it hard to distinguish them for me... here is two screen shot for your reference, thanks~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamStanislav Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 I'd be interested to know whether either version can distinguish between Adam's nice 'Crusader' dingbats and an ordinary Latin text font, but I suspect not. My guess would be they can read the OS/2 table in my font (and other OpenType and TrueType fonts). It contains a key called PFM Family whose value is set to Decorative (other possible values are Serif, Sans-Serif, Monospace and Script). I’m not sure how easy it is to get this information on either OS but, at least in theory, it should be available. BTW, thanks for calling it nice. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alfred Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 My guess would be they can read the OS/2 table in my font (and other OpenType and TrueType fonts). It contains a key called PFM Family whose value is set to Decorative (other possible values are Serif, Sans-Serif, Monospace and Script). I’m not sure how easy it is to get this information on either OS but, at least in theory, it should be available. 'PFM Family' is a new one on me: it sounds like something to do with PostScript Type 1 fonts. I was assuming that for a TTF or OTF font Affinity Designer would look at the PANOSE classification, in which case it wouldn't be able to recognize pictorial or symbol fonts which are identified as text fonts. BTW, thanks for calling it nice. :) You're very welcome, Adam. I called it 'nice' because I think it is nice! ;) AdamStanislav 1 Alfred Affinity Designer/Photo/Publisher 2 for Windows • Windows 10 Home/Pro Affinity Designer/Photo/Publisher 2 for iPad • iPadOS 17.5.1 (iPad 7th gen) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeW Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 I myself like to just shut off font previews...But, what would be nice is like in QXP where one can shut off the font previews and if needed/desired in a particular instance, holding the shift key turns them back on temporarily. The opposite also happens (if on, shift shuts them off). I never really choose fonts from inside an application but rather from my font manager. @Alfred. I do not know how it is done, but the Wingding (and some other) fonts are symbol fonts but show the name in AD and other applications. I tried to figure it out yesterday in my spare time but couldn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alfred Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 @Alfred. I do not know how it is done, but the Wingding (and some other) fonts are symbol fonts but show the name in AD and other applications. I tried to figure it out yesterday in my spare time but couldn't. If you open Wingdings in FontCreator and go to the Characteristics tab in the Font Properties dialog, you'll see that the PANOSE value for the Family Kind is reported as '5 - Latin Symbol (Pictorial)'. Gary Bouton's Elephants and Bears is '4 - Latin Decorative' and Adam's Crusader is '2 - Latin Text'. From what I've read (probably including forum posts by your good self!) PANOSE classifications are frequently less than completely accurate. AdamStanislav 1 Alfred Affinity Designer/Photo/Publisher 2 for Windows • Windows 10 Home/Pro Affinity Designer/Photo/Publisher 2 for iPad • iPadOS 17.5.1 (iPad 7th gen) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamStanislav Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 Thanks for that information, Alfred. The next update to my font will have the Panose Family set to Latin Pictorial/Symbol and Panose Kind to Icons. The current version just has all of Panose set to Default. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeW Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 If you open Wingdings in FontCreator and go to the Characteristics tab in the Font Properties dialog, you'll see that the PANOSE value for the Family Kind is reported as '5 - Latin Symbol (Pictorial)'. Gary Bouton's Elephants and Bears is '4 - Latin Decorative' and Adam's Crusader is '2 - Latin Text'. From what I've read (probably including forum posts by your good self!) PANOSE classifications are frequently less than completely accurate. Yes, I know. But using any font editor (including FC) on such a font, I cannot get the name to show up in the list like Wingdings does. In fact, it looks like FC has an issue with creating symbol fonts on Win 10--like it did with any OTF font at first release. I keep getting the invalid font file message on them. That's beside the point, though. Using 3 other font editors I cannot get the name to show up in AD's list. Even if I begin with the Wingding font, replace the glyphs and recompile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamStanislav Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 I have uploaded a new version of the font. Though, despite the change of the PANOSE table, AD still shows its name in the symbols from the font. As does Serif DrawPlus X8 and PagePlus X7. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r91085 Posted September 14, 2016 Author Share Posted September 14, 2016 So ... Is it possible to show font name in local language in AD ? ... AdamStanislav 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
otmaxhai Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 My all application including Drawplus display font name in Chinese But In AD it show them in english , it hard to distinguish them for me... here is two screen shot for your reference, thanks~ I have just purchased AD for macOS. This problem is still not fixed in the latest version (1.5.4). I'm a designer from Hong Kong. I have trouble choosing the correct Chinese fonts. There are two problems: 1. the Chinese font names are displayed as English names (which most softwares with text-input won't do so we are not familiar with) and 2. the now indistingishable Chinese fonts are mixed with all the other English fonts. FYI Adobe Illustrator and Photoshop organise fonts according to their respective language. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Ingram Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 I have just purchased AD for macOS. This problem is still not fixed in the latest version (1.5.4). I'm a designer from Hong Kong. I have trouble choosing the correct Chinese fonts. There are two problems: 1. the Chinese font names are displayed as English names (which most softwares with text-input won't do so we are not familiar with) and 2. the now indistingishable Chinese fonts are mixed with all the other English fonts. FYI Adobe Illustrator and Photoshop organise fonts according to their respective language. This is the Windows Designer Beta forum, you should probably make a post in the Bugs on macOS forum instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T_Hi_Lo Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 Hi, I am using Affinity Designer with Windows 10 / 2 Displays. When I have a text and choose the font in the list, Affinity freezes - is extremely slow. Does anybody have the same problem? Is there a work around? MadlenCize 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubs Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 When I have a text and choose the font in the list, Affinity freezes - is extremely slow. Does anybody have the same problem? Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r91085 Posted February 8, 2017 Author Share Posted February 8, 2017 Hi, I am using Affinity Designer with Windows 10 / 2 Displays. When I have a text and choose the font in the list, Affinity freezes - is extremely slow. Does anybody have the same problem? Is there a work around? I had this problem too. And I still want to know So ... Is it possible to show font name in local language in AD in the future ? ... I think this is normal way to show font name in almost all application Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T_Hi_Lo Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 Are there any news? Still have theese freezing issues... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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