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Hi,

 

I just discovered the following inconsistent behavior:

 

 

1.1) create e.g. a rectangle 

1.2) grab e.g. the bottom right handle to scale the rectangle

>> the rectangle can be scaled freely ( as expected )

 

 

1.3) grab e.g. the bottom right handle to scale the rectangle BUT use Shift 

>> the rectangle can only be scaled with aspect ratio ( as expected )

 
same behavior with 2 rectangles
 
 
a single image has the opposite behavior:
 
2.1) place an image
2.2) grab e.g. the bottom right handle to scale the image

>> the image can only be scaled with aspect ratio ( that's unusual and NOT what I expected )

 
2.3) now with Shift 

>> the image can be scaled freely  ( that's unusual and NOT what I expected )

 
3.) whereas 2 images behave as expected (vice versa)
 
 
Thanks,
Stefan.

Affinity Designer | Affinity Photo | Affinity Publisher

macOS Sierra 10.13.6;
MacBookPro (13 inch, Early 2015); 3.1 GHz i7 CPU; 16 GB RAM

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that depends on your preference settings and is not necessarily a bug

 

A_B_C,

 

thanks a lot for showing me this "hidden" option in preferences!

 

But two things: 

First: no, I did not choose "Automatic" - it's the default option. But you showed my exactly what I was looking for. :)

Second: I still consider the default behavior ("Automatic") as inconsistent if I compare point 1.) and 2.) and when it comes to point 3.) I prefer to say "buggy". 

 

Anyway - no-one must program or fix something ... the settings option makes it work for yo, for me, for everyone. In this case it might be interesting if the default is a good one (make more than 50% of the users happy) AND/OR how to let the users know, that they can influence this behavior by changing their settings. Not everyone is a forum member and complains like me. :D

 

 

Cheers,

Stefan.


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MacBookPro (13 inch, Early 2015); 3.1 GHz i7 CPU; 16 GB RAM

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Hi Stefan,

This was discussed already in other threads. By default we keep the proportions of objects that do have an intrinsic aspect ratio like images and text. Objects which have no natural aspect ratio like lines or shapes for example are created freely. You can change this behaviour in Preferences as A_B_C pointed out.

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You can change this behaviour in Preferences as A_B_C pointed out.

 

Hi MEB,

 

sure, I already did and I am very happy about. As I said: no need to change anything.

 

And I understand the point behind this (intrinsic aspect ratio of images). But I still don't see the point when scaling image1 and a copy of image1 at the same time. 2 images don't have an intrinsic aspect ratio anymore?


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I'm so glad I found this thread!  I had no idea that automatic constraining was optional.  :D

 

 

 

I had grown accustomed to this behavior because it makes perfect sense, but than I selected multiple images and everything fell apart. Apparently, if you select more than one object with inherent aspect ratio (text, image, etc.) this "rule" disappears.  :huh: Very confusing.

 

It's wonderful to know that this can be disabled. Thanks!  :)  

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Apparently, if you select more than one object with inherent aspect ratio (text, image, etc.) this "rule" disappears.  :huh: Very confusing.

 

It's wonderful to know that this can be disabled. Thanks!  :)  

 

 

That's the point - it is confusing. Sometimes Shift leads to scale with aspect ration - sometimes Shift does the opposite. I have this one very nice summary I once read about good interface:

 

"Don't make me think".

 

This is simple as brilliant. And the behavior of swapping the functionality of Shift made me think a lot. It gave me the feeling of not controlling the tools. They controlled me instead.

 

The same problem I have with that one here:

https://forum.affinity.serif.com/index.php?/topic/24110-prevent-toggle-between-current-and-last-used-tool/

 

Regularly I got mad when I hit "V" to activate the move tool but some other tool will be activated instead (because I was not aware that I the move tool was already active and then I start something completely different like writing a text or paint. Unbelievable confusing for me. And frustrating because of unnecessary clicks and thoughts about "why".

 

But I am looking forward to have a simple preference setting in the near future for it also. :)

 

 

Thanks again for the overall genius software package you already have delivered to us,

Stefan.


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