Surprise what is selected after clicking

[Roberto1972]

Hi,

 

Either if I copy contents of a DrawPlus file and paste in a blank AD A4 document or when I export a DrawPlus file to wmf and open it in AD something weird happens:

 

If I click on an object or blank space then a seemingly total 'random' object is being selected (not that random: looks like AD suffers from some consistent wrong mouse location reference point syndrome).

 

However, if I create selection marquees (with or without including right mouse button) than the correct objects are being selected.

 

If I save as AD file and reopen nothing changes.

 

Note: I have the font Arial Black installed but AD complains it can't find the font. It's also not in the AD font list (but it is present in the list of font types under Arial itself).

 

Any physician around specialized in CWMLRP syndrome? What are the odds for total cure?

 

Roberto

[Sean P]

Roberto, it sounds as though the object you are trying to select is actually a sub object so instead it will just select the parent - could you try Ctrl+Clicking to see if that selects the item you want.

 

If that is not the case would you be able to attach a screenshot showing the wrong item being selected and also attach the file you are using please?

[Alfred]

consistent wrong mouse location reference point syndrome

 

What are your display settings, Roberto? I've seen evidence of this kind of behaviour with the colour picker in another app when the display is set to a large value like 150%.

[Roberto1972]

Hi Sean,

 

Attached a screendump and the file in question.

The attached file is one I saved in AD after pasting or opening the DrawPlus export image; it's not a native AD file.

 

When importing/pasting the image AD complains about a missing font (Arial Black). I changed the font of the objects having the initial Arial Black font in AD to FONT Arial, TYPE Black. After reopening the file AD still complains about the missing font and refuses to let me select objects properly.

 

Using either selection marquees or the Layers tab I can select an object properly but not by using the mouse cusor (only few objects in the top of the drawing).

 

 

 

Alfred,

 

I have the system font set at 100% (Windows 7)

 

Roberto

EL-USB-3-terminals.afdesign

[MEB]

Thanks for the file @Roberto1972.

I'm seeing the same weird selection behaviour as you on Affinity Designer for Mac but not the font issue (this may be specific to the Windows version which i still have to check).

Selection issue logged to be checked.

[Alfred]

I suspect that the font issue has more to do with DrawPlus export than Affinity Designer import.

 

I created a simple document in DPX8 with some Arial Black text. I published the page to PDF/X-3 and I exported the text object to SVG. The PDF file imported into AD without any problems, but when I imported the SVG file I got a message that Arial Black was missing. Upon inspection of the SVG source, I found that it identified the font family as Arial Black and the font weight as 400 (i.e. Regular); I edited a copy of the file to change the font family to Arial and the font weight to 900 (i.e. Black) and this edited copy imported correctly into AD. Resaving the SVG files from AD gave me two *.afdesign files which reopened without any problems.

 

@Roberto1972: Thanks for the feedback about your display settings. That obviously isn't the cause of the CWMLRP syndrome!

[Roberto1972]

...syndrome:  :D

 

Wow, you did some serious bug hunting there, Alfred!

 

Is Arial Black just Arial with a different font weight?? I always assumed font designers obsessively reconsidered each and every character with releasing each related font type.

 

Interesting to read that the complex pdf format is working as a source file while a common format on its own (svg) fails! Until now I never was font (uhh...) of importing pdf because in the past I regularly experienced compatibility issues (read: only simple files converted successfully). So far I think I only used pdf for export; never for import even though I did copy objects from pdf occasionally.

 

Roberto

[Alfred]

Is Arial Black just Arial with a different font weight?? I always assumed font designers obsessively reconsidered each and every character with releasing each related font type.

 

Yes, it is. And yes, they do!

 

Arial, Arial Black and Arial Narrow are separate families under GDI. With DirectWrite they are all treated as the same family, and you'll find the same grouping if you look in your Windows Fonts folder. Please see the attached screenshot, where Arial Narrow is only missing because I don't have it installed on this system.

 

In a properly designed typeface, each successively 'fatter' font has more than just fattened versions of the same glyphs, but that doesn't alter the fact that Arial Black is essentially a heavier version of Arial Bold, and Arial Narrow is essentially a condensed version of Arial.