New IOS26 more like a mac, will Affinity Apps still work?

[Affinity Rat]

Just read this

https://techcrunch.com/2025/06/09/ipados-26-will-make-the-ipad-feel-more-like-a-mac/

Anyone know how well this fits with Affinity products on ipad?

This impo to know prior to being forced into an update that is not compatible with my apps.

Apple have a record of doing this, so just trying to catch it before the issue arizes. 

 

[Paul Mudditt]

2 hours ago, Affinity Rat said:

Just read this

https://techcrunch.com/2025/06/09/ipados-26-will-make-the-ipad-feel-more-like-a-mac/

Anyone know how well this fits with Affinity products on ipad?

This impo to know prior to being forced into an update that is not compatible with my apps.

Apple have a record of doing this, so just trying to catch it before the issue arizes. 

 

Everything will work just fine on iPadOS26....eventually. Don't install the beta if you are concerned, I will be.

EDIT: I will be installing all the betas versions once they are on public release so will let you know of any problems I find.

Edited June 14 by Paul Mudditt
Clarification

[Affinity Rat]

2 minutes ago, Paul Mudditt said:

Everything will work just fine on iPadOS26....eventually.

Yeah, its the eventually that is the big gotcha. I agree it will probably work eventually, but some people rely on it to work, and this is a big problem if it doesnt.

[Affinity Rat]

Almost everytime Apple release a new ios until I update the ios my ipad starts hanging or misbehaving. Coincidence I think not.

Anyway thanx Paul.

[Alfred]

39 minutes ago, Paul Mudditt said:

Don't install the beta if you are concerned, I will be.

You will be installing the beta, Paul, or you will be concerned?

[Ali]

Or both?

[Alfred]

6 minutes ago, Ali said:

Or both?

Indeed, Ali! Inclusive ‘or’ rather than exclusive. ‘Feel the fear and do it anyway’, or something.

[Alfred]

41 minutes ago, Affinity Rat said:

Almost everytime Apple release a new ios until I update the ios my ipad starts hanging or misbehaving. Coincidence I think not.

My 7th generation iPad is currently on 17.5.1. Updating iPadOS to 18.5 apparently requires at least 11.54 GB of available storage, but (because the total amount of installed memory is 32 GB, almost half of which is occupied by system data and the currently installed version of iPadOS) I need to move a humongous amount of stuff to an external SSD in order to free up the necessary space. I had only just started to do that when I was warned about the potentially disastrous effects of going ahead with the OS update, so I’m going to steer clear of iPadOS 18.x for the time being.

[Paul Mudditt]

53 minutes ago, Alfred said:

You will be installing the beta, Paul, or you will be concerned?

I install all the iOS/iPadOS, macOS and Serif betas and never had any serious problems in past ten years so will let you know if anything gets broken in time for Serif to fix before full release, after all that is the reason for having beta testers. 😀

[Paul Mudditt]

29 minutes ago, Alfred said:

My 7th generation iPad is currently on 17.5.1. Updating iPadOS to 18.5 apparently requires at least 11.54 GB of available storage, but (because the total amount of installed memory is 32 GB, almost half of which is occupied by system data and the currently installed version of iPadOS) I need to move a humongous amount of stuff to an external SSD in order to free up the necessary space. I had only just started to do that when I was warned about the potentially disastrous effects of going ahead with the OS update, so I’m going to steer clear of iPadOS 18.x for the time being.

Oh blimey, 32GB storage is very light for a 2019 iPad. I was on 128GB iPad Pro 9.7” back in 2016. Now on 256GB M1 iPad Pro, although still using less than 128GB because I use iCloud intensively to save money.

[Affinity Rat]

39 minutes ago, Alfred said:

My 7th generation iPad is currently on 17.5.1. Updating iPadOS to 18.5 apparently requires at least 11.54 GB of available storage, but (because the total amount of installed memory is 32 GB, almost half of which is occupied by system data and the currently installed version of iPadOS) I need to move a humongous amount of stuff to an external SSD in order to free up the necessary space. I had only just started to do that when I was warned about the potentially disastrous effects of going ahead with the OS update, so I’m going to steer clear of iPadOS 18.x for the time being.

Yeah, to think Apple give users 5 free gb of storage, golly how generous. I thought the point of a synch was to keep all devices consistent. I have 4 Apple devices and they give me 5 GB of storage to synch. Its pathetic for a wealthy, company like Apple to treat customers this way. Such a greedy and monopolistic biz. Yeah sure I can buy more, but they go out of their way to fill your device. File app says Move when it actually does a copy, and the menu item to delete is off screen and requires user to scroll to see it….disgustin!

[Paul Mudditt]

2 minutes ago, Affinity Rat said:

Yeah, to think Apple give users 5 free gb of storage, golly how generous. I thought the point of a synch was to keep all devices consistent. I have 4 Apple devices and they give me 5 GB of storage to synch. Its pathetic for a wealthy, company like Apple to treat customers this way. Such a greedy and monopolistic biz.

Whilst I agree that 5GB is low for 2025, and I hope Apple do increase that I have never considered iCloud to be a synch’ing service.

iCloud is set up as a master repository rather than a synch’ing service.

If any of my devices are stolen/lost/destroyed I know I can be up and running in a very short time on a replacement device.

I’m more than happy to pay for iCloud, as it serves as a master repository for all my photos, videos, and data. I do also have multiple TM backups as well for 40+ years of legacy PC data I don’t have in iCloud and occasionally access.

[Affinity Rat]

1 minute ago, Paul Mudditt said:

iCloud is set up as a master repository rather than a synch’ing service.

Yes exactly, I dont synch either, but I believe that is what the iCloud is designed to do!

I want backup and repository, I refuse to give Apple any more money and use iDrive to backup PC and IOS and am very happy with the service.

Initially signed up for iDrive $5 USD for 10 Tb, upon renewal price jump up but it works well, and refuse to give Apple any more money.

[Alfred]

20 minutes ago, Paul Mudditt said:

Oh blimey, 32GB storage is very light for a 2019 iPad. I was on 128GB iPad Pro 9.7” back in 2016. Now on 256GB M1 iPad Pro, although still using less than 128GB because I use iCloud intensively to save money.

I think there was a choice between 32 GB and 128 GB, the latter being significantly more expensive. My first iPad was an Air 2 with 64 GB, but it wasn’t compatible with Apple Pencil (which was the only usable stylus at the time).

[Affinity Rat]

15 minutes ago, Alfred said:

think there was a choice between 32 GB and 128 GB, the latter being significantly more expensive

Please excuse my cynicism but I think Apple do this intentionally, they offer a low cost version, then a huge price increase for more memory, they know the low cost version has so little memory, that it will fill up quickly, now they got you as a customer you will buy another to upgrade, end up buying 2 devices rather than one. They bait uninformed customer's with a low cost version in order to get them to buy another device….nefarious business practices. Apple worms!

[Alfred]

2 minutes ago, Affinity Rat said:

Please excuse my cynicism but I think Apple do this intentionally

That’s not cynicism, it’s just observation! I knew what I was letting myself in for.

[Affinity Rat]

I dont know if its coincidence but just tried going to iDrive.com on Safari and Firefox and it wont go, can anyone else get there from Apple device now? Never had this prob on PC. Going to try from my PC. PC cant go either…connection timed out. Wow they blocked it! 😊 Dont talk bad about the mighty Apple.

Rebooted my router, Ok no prob.

 

 

[Paul Mudditt]

18 minutes ago, Affinity Rat said:

I dont know if its coincidence but just tried going to iDrive.com on Safari and Firefox and it wont go, can anyone else get there from Apple device now? Never had this prob on PC. Going to try from my PC. PC cant go either…connection timed out. Wow they blocked it! 😊 Dont talk bad about the mighty Apple.

 

 

I have Google Drive Microsoft Onedrive and Drop box from the olden days when I was PC only but none give the performance of iCloud and I barely use the other systems now. For me to get the best out of my expensive devices I choose not to be King Canute and go with the Apple flow - it works and extremely well in my personal experience, including on my legacy Windows 10, my last ever PC. 

[Affinity Rat]

21 minutes ago, Paul Mudditt said:

I have Google Drive Microsoft Onedrive and Drop box from the olden days when I was PC only but none give the performance of iCloud and I barely use the other systems now. For me to get the best out of my expensive devices I choose not to be King Canute and go with the Apple flow - it works and extremely well in my personal experience, including on my legacy Windows 10, my last ever PC. 

I think the ipad saves a copy of items on the local device prior to uploading. This makes the save seem very fast, but in actuality sucking local memory. I have found that items save to icloud, when the cloud was unavailable, are still saved locally. The when available can take its time uploading. Other services cant do that because they aren't in bed with IOS. You probably know this better than I. King Canute 😊

[Paul Mudditt]

35 minutes ago, Affinity Rat said:

I think the ipad saves a copy of items on the local device prior to uploading. This makes the save seem very fast, but in actuality sucking local memory. I have found that items save to icloud, when the cloud was unavailable, are still saved locally. 
 

 

 

Yes saving to an iCloud folder is simply a save to a local folder. When suitable internet connection and device power is adequate or connected, files are uploaded to Apple servers but remain in local folders until the Apple servers confirm safe complete arrival. Files still exist in local folders and may stay there several weeks/months or years depending upon when they were last accessed taking into account free device storage. Files not accessed for an extended period of time are then deleted and replaced with the iCloud link to conserve device space when needed. If a file updates on another device the iCloud version will be used to replace the local copy. 

[Affinity Rat]

10 minutes ago, Paul Mudditt said:

Yes saving to an iCloud folder is simply a save to a local folder. When suitable internet connection and device power is adequate or connected, files are uploaded to Apple servers but remain in local folders until the Apple servers confirm safe complete arrival. Files still exist in local folders and may stay there several weeks/months or years depending upon when they were last accessed taking into account free device storage. Files not accessed for an extended period of time are then deleted and replaced with the iCloud link to conserve device space when needed. 

Thou cannot control the sea nor where the iPad jolly-well saves its sh@t. King Canute circa 12 century.

[Alfred]

31 minutes ago, Affinity Rat said:

King Canute circa 12 century.

Very ‘circa’! King Canute was around in the early 11th century, but even by the late 12th century there weren’t any iPads that were advanced enough to be worth the struggle.

[Alfred]

[GarryP]

26 minutes ago, Alfred said:

even by the late 12th century there weren’t any iPads that were advanced enough to be worth the struggle.

[Affinity Rat]

 

@Alfredo "Very circa!

Ok ok, circa circa! 

Veni, vidi, vici… Mr. Knowitall circa now!