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Hm... just another case I had to use my old PS6 again. :$

I am currently working on Czech version of the comic book where the original data contains the artwork in 300ppi CMYK & inks (black&white page) in 1200ppi 1bit tiff images. I am editing all B&W pages in Affinity Photo and export them back as TIFF files. Unfortunately I had to re-saved them in PS in Bitmap mode / 50% threshold as AP doesn't support it... yet. Please add (at least) the export TIF in Bitmap mode. It would be very appreciated ;)

Btw, the colour TIFF pages required little bit of editing / retouching as well but here I had to use PS only as I had a lot of issues with shifted colours, missing layers and deadline was so close. Once it's finished I will ask for support and "reverse engineering" here (well, not in this topic of course) as I want to know the limitations of Photo and/or Designer to edit comic books... and Publisher as well even I don't prepare the final PDF for print, this part is done by another guy in InD.

Anyway I still believe in Affinity!

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On 5/30/2019 at 2:40 PM, longstreth said:

I'm a cartoonist looking for an alternative to Photoshop and was bummed to find out (after purchase) that Affinity Photo does not have a bitmap mode, which is essential to my practice. As stated above, the printing process for comics uses black and white bitmap 1200dpi TIF files for the lineart, which is overprinted above the CMY plates. Until this feature is incorporated I'll have to search elsewhere for a workaround (Clip Studio Paint, etc.)

Me too!!!!!

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It really would be helpful to get the 1-Bit mode implemented. It's been on the feature request list for nearly 4 years now .... Aside the above mentioned areas you need it for supplying coating layers for print. 


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1 Bit export would do the job ... Still would be nice to have a preview with adjustable threshold ... even if I would have to export a picture to publisher ... (hard to understand the devs decision, since there seem to be many reasons to have this mode and it's no rocket science to flatten a grayscale pic to 1 bit. And I guess TIF would be a desirable format as well next to PDF).

Just my 2 cents ...


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I have one crazy suggestion. There is an option to switch to different view modes in Designer (vector, pixel, pixel retina, outline), even to split views. I cannot see this view modes in Photo now, only in Designer but what about to add "1-bit view" to all Affinity apps? The idea is to get realtime preview of the artwork even the apps will still work in X-bit grey / colour mode. Make it sense or is that stupid suggestion? I don't know... 

 

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Creating 1-bit lookalike is not a problem. Threshold filter makes perfectly good B&W image (and as it is nondestructive you can turn it off/on like preview). You can even export it to 2 colour/B&W PNG. It is then 1-bit truly, but it is not true 1-bit bitmap image, it is 1-bit indexed colour image. It does not behave in InDesign like 1-bit bitmap image. 

This export bitmap export option should be added, preferably to TIF format export.

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Hi there,

I completely agree with what Fixx said.
To me preparing my work ready to print is vital for 2 specific main reasons (there are others too but they are mainly related to my workflow).

1. I want my artwork to be print-ready so that i have control or let's say legal certainty and using a bitmap to tone an image with Spotcolors is the usual way how prepress will handle it.
I do comic art and the reasons why this is important here has already been sufficiently explained earlier.

2. I have been working in a prepress department for quite a while and I do want them to have exactly what they want if need be and have them not necessarily do it themselves because the very least it will cause is a delay which of course might provoke other problems.

So yes, bitmap is absolutely necessary and other prepress related features such as a preview of color-separation and overprinting.

:)

 

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I work with both the printing industry and laser engraving and both require 1 bit files. The fact that this is not going to be supported is giant. I wanted to like Affinity over Adobe, but this is making it so I have to use yet another program to do something that Photoshop can handle in one. A true 1 bit output would be a start, but won't be a complete fix because every time there is a color conversion (to grayscale then back to 1 bit) there is the possibility of weird and unexpected things going wrong.

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I know, I am very disappointed too. I could not believe what I was reading when the Affinity team announced / confirmed that they would never implement a proper 1bit mode.

That said, multi-channel isn't supported either (duo-, tri-tone, etc.). Which means the Affinity range is severely crippled for anything other than a regular CMYK print workflow. Let's hope they will at the very least implement multi-channel support - but without 1bit mode, it will still be considered handicapped for many print jobs.

@lilokai PhotoLine supports true 1bit, and even supports layers while working with 1bit images - unlike Photoshop. And the latest version introduced multi-channel image and PDF Device-N support as well. My solution for this type of work.

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Just now, Medical Officer Bones said:

I know, I am very disappointed too. I could not believe what I was reading when the Affinity team announced / confirmed that they would never implement a proper 1bit mode.

That said, multi-channel isn't supported either (duo-, tri-tone, etc.). Which means the Affinity range is severely crippled for anything other than a regular CMYK print workflow. Let's hope they will at the very least implement multi-channel support - but without 1bit mode, it will still be considered handicapped for many print jobs.

@lilokai PhotoLine supports true 1bit, and even supports layers while working with 1bit images - unlike Photoshop. And the latest version introduced multi-channel image and PDF Device-N support as well. My solution for this type of work.

And unless pdf export supported different ppi/dpi exporting to handle 1200 dpi (for instance) for 1-bit versus 300 dpi (for instance) for cmyk in the same export, I'm not certain adding 1-bit import/export really matters.

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1 minute ago, MikeW said:

And unless pdf export supported different ppi/dpi exporting to handle 1200 dpi (for instance) for 1-bit versus 300 dpi (for instance) for cmyk in the same export, I'm not certain adding 1-bit import/export really matters.

True, true. InDesign, Quark, (even the old Freehand, I recall) and PhotoLine all support this.

As I said, Affinity remains crippled for a wide range of print work if the developers maintain their stance. Bit of a shame, really.

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I too need to be able to do 1-bit TIFs for book printing. I use them all the time for line art.

Just today I had to fire up Photoshop to be able to do this.

It seems like such a basic feature to have...

 

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I would also like to add my name to the petition for bitmap and duotone capability. I can't see any reason not to have it and the sheer volume of print that uses both, makes Affinity effectively unusable in many situations in the print world.

Adding the capability would open Affinity up for a huge number of designers and illustrators who currently have little other option than to carry on with PS. Including me.

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