Publisher -> Paragraph Flow and Space Before Only At Column Top

[Rusack]

The paragraph flows from one frame to another. The paragraph is set to have space before only at column top, but won't work when the paragraph flows to the text frame. 

If the paragraph starts at the next frame, space before only at column top works fine. Is there any workaround? I don't want to change text frame for every page without heading.

Or am I doing something wrong here?

[MikeTO]

It's difficult to know without seeing the definition for Base, but try setting Space After to 0, Space Between Same Styles to off, and Sum Space Before and After to Off. Sometimes it's best to explicitly define all of these options rather than leaving them on No Change. I tried these settings and it worked fine for me.

Good luck

[Rusack]

No, still not working. v2.6.2

Base
Font: Myriad Pro; Font weight: Normal; Italic: Off; Font width: Semi-condensed; Font size: 10 pt; Tracking: 0 ‰; Baseline advance: 0 pt; Default kern: on; X offset: 0 pt; Y offset: 0 pt; Scale X: 100 %; Scale Y: 100 %; Font shear: 0 °; Leading override: 0 pt; Underline: None; Strikethrough: None; No superscript/subscript; No caps; Leading override: auto; Typography script: Auto; Typography language: Auto; Optical alignment: Manual; No break: off; Spelling language: English (United States); Hyphenation language: Auto; Font color: R:0 G:0 B:0; Character outline fill: none; Character outline: none; Character transparency: none; Background color: none; Underline color: none; Strikethrough color: none; Optical alignment values; OpenType: reset; Justify paragraph: Last line left; Leading mode: Exactly; Start: Anywhere; Keep with previous: Off; Keep with next: 0; Keep together: Off; Prevent widows: Off; Prevent orphans: Off; Align to baseline grid: On; Auto hyphenation: Off; Hyphenate minimum length: 5; Hyphenate after first: 2 letters; Hyphenate before last: 2 letters; Maximum consecutive hyphens: Unlimited; Only at Column Top; Use space between same styles: Off; Use larger of space before and after; PDF Export Tag:P; Leading: 14 pt; Left indent: 0 mm; Right indent: 0 mm; First line indent: 0 mm; Space before: 18 pt; Space after: 0 pt; Default tab stops: 7 mm; Minimum word spacing: 80 %; Desired word spacing: 100 %; Maximum word spacing: 133 %; Minimum letter spacing: 0 %; Desired letter spacing: 0 %; Maximum letter spacing: 0 %; Minimum hyphen score: 0.0; Hyphenation zone: 0 mm; Hyphenation - Capital zone: 0 mm; Hyphenation - Paragraph end zone: 0 mm; Hyphenation - Column end zone: 0 mm; Last line outdent: 0 mm; Space between same styles: 0 pt; Tab stops: None; Paragraph decorations; List: None; List bullet string: "•\t"; List character style: ""; List tab stop indent: 0 mm; List alignment: Left; Drop cap: Off; Drop cap height: 3; Drop cap characters: 1; Drop cap auto characters: On; Drop cap align left: Off; Drop cap scale descenders: Off; Drop cap text distance: 0 pt; Drop cap style: ""; Initial words: Off; Initial words count: 0; Initial words end characters: ; Initial words style: ""

Body
Base + Justify paragraph: Last line left; Prevent widows: On; Prevent orphans: On; Align to baseline grid: On; Only at Column Top; Use space between same styles: Off; Use larger of space before and after; Space before: 14 pt; Space after: 0 pt

 

[Rusack]

made a file, new one. edited base font to match your settings

40 minutes ago, MikeTO said:

It's difficult to know without seeing the definition for Base, but try setting Space After to 0, Space Between Same Styles to off, and Sum Space Before and After to Off. Sometimes it's best to explicitly define all of these options rather than leaving them on No Change. I tried these settings and it worked fine for me.

Good luck

 

flow text top column gap test.afpub

[Old Bruce]

@Rusack,

I am unsure what it is you are needing. Are you wanting the pages to look like this? A constant gap at the top except with a heading? Note that I deleted some lines in the first screenshot so as to have the paragraph end on the left page, and in the second screenshot I have the lines there to be a continued paragraph with the gap.

[MikeTO]

I don't see any issues with your file. When I open it, I see the space before of 43 pt at the top of the left column as expected. There is no space above any other paragraph, not counting the blank paragraphs which I assume was just because this was a quick test file.

There is no space at the top of the second column because that is the continuation of the paragraph from the previous page. Space Before only adds space before the start of a new paragraph. If you want space before the start of text in a text frame, you should use the Text Frame panel and set Insets > Top instead of using Space Before.

[Rusack]

not quite what I needed to be honest, found a workaround using "Float With Text" for a separate text box for heading that I attach to the first word of the first paragraph. Kinda works, but I'm curious why there's no option to get space at the top of the column even if it's not above the first line of the paragraph. That would be a neat feature that I'm sure would be used by certain designers

[Old Bruce]

I think this might help.

Taking care of top gap.afpub

I have a Text Frame Baseline grid set to start at one inch. The Paragraph Style for the bulk of the text is set to use the Baseline Grid (only on for the Text Frames, off for the document as a whole. The heading style has the Use Baseline Grid turned off.