why can't I manage the Crop Tool presets?

[jimh12345]

I want to change the presets for the Crop Tool:  add some new ones, and delete unused categories (so I don't pick from them by mistake, and resample my photo).   I select the Crop tool, click the gear icon on the toolbar, click the hamburger, and click Manage Presets.  I get the Preset Manager, but all the options I want to use are disabled.

Rename Preset, Delete Preset are grayed out.  I click the hamburger on a category, and all the menu options are disabled except for "Import Presets" and "Restore Master Presets To Category" (whatever that means).

It seems I can't do anything with the Preset Manager.  Am I supposed to bring it up in some other context?  Or have I done something to Presets that's broken or disabled management?

[loukash]

The default presets are not editable.
You may want to create some custom presets first by starting a crop and adjusting its parameters.

[jimh12345]

I just spent 10 minutes searching for any way to create a preset.   I can create a Category, which is helpfully placed at the very bottom of the list in the Manager, and does not even show up if I click the gear icon from the toolbar.  And no way to create a Preset in my new Category. 

What the heck?

[R C-R]

1 hour ago, jimh12345 said:

What the heck?

Try either Custom ratio or Resample mode & set a crop that does not duplicate an existing one.

[jimh12345]

Ok, I set the Crop to 7 x 5, Custom Ratio.  But then what?  I don't see a way to add this as a Preset. 

[loukash]

Yeah, it's not exactly intuitive, but today I was also able to figure it out without looking up the help files, so…  

[R C-R]

12 hours ago, jimh12345 said:

Ok, I set the Crop to 7 x 5, Custom Ratio.  But then what?  I don't see a way to add this as a Preset. 

Click on the gear icon, then the 3 line 'burger' menu in the Presets window that pops up, & you should see that Create Preset is available.

[jimh12345]

2 hours ago, R C-R said:

Click on the gear icon, then the 3 line 'burger' menu in the Presets window that pops up, & you should see that Create Preset is available.

That's greyed out too.

[Sigh.]

[Old Bruce]

To make a new preset the aspect ratio must be unique. For example we cannot make a new 1:1 preset.

[jimh12345]

41 minutes ago, Old Bruce said:

To make a new preset the aspect ratio must be unique. For example we cannot make a new 1:1 preset.

So, I can't make a new Preset at 7x5 that's Custom Ratio, instead of resample.  Brilliant.  

Guys, thanks for the attempts at help.  I'm walking away now. 

[R C-R]

3 hours ago, jimh12345 said:

So, I can't make a new Preset at 7x5 that's Custom Ratio, instead of resample. 

Works fine for me:

I can do the same with a 5X7 ratio so I have both a 7:5 & a 5:7 entry in the popup in whatever category I put them in. including "None."

So I have no idea why it isn't working for you.

[jimh12345]

AP has many excellent and powerful features.  This "crop preset" implementation is not one of them. 

 

I'll just enter the crop ratio by hand every time.

[R C-R]

1 minute ago, jimh12345 said:

AP has many excellent and powerful features.  This "crop preset" implementation is not one of them. 

I still have no idea why it isn't working for you. As you can see from my last screenshot it is working fine for me.

[Alfred]

14 hours ago, jimh12345 said:

That's greyed out too.

[Sigh.]

What is your operating system?

[jimh12345]

10 hours ago, Alfred said:

What is your operating system?

Windows 11.