Exclude objects in the group from scaling

[Domske]

How to prevent objects within a group from scaling of the parent? For example: I crafted an arrow with text for dimensioning. Now I want to scale the group without to scale the text and a rectangle. Ok, for the text I found a solution with frame text tool. But I also use a white rectanlge to hide the arrow line behind the text. Because afaik, the text frame tool cannot have a background, right? But anyway, I'm sure there are tons of other use cases like UI design. I'm not sure how this can be possible, I guess Designer uses a transform node around the drawing objects. So how to exclude an object? Maybe with workaround? Any idea of set anchor on another object without grouping, but keep position and angle with the target object (group)? Ideas are welcome...

A suggestion: Make the measure tool persistent like other obejects. Currently you can only measure but that is not part of the drawing. It would be great if I can use the measure tool within my drawing. So keep instances. And in best case, let me also change the height to draw the line deeper in the drawing to e.g. Holes etc. Or create a new object for dimensioning. Additional: Let the user change the actual display value.

[carl123]

31 minutes ago, Domske said:

Ok, for the text I found a solution with frame text tool. But I also use a white rectanlge to hide the arrow line behind the text. Because afaik, the text frame tool cannot have a background, right?

In Designer, you can use the Vector Flood Fill Tool to give the Text Frame a background colour. Just click on an empty part of the Text Frame not the text itself

[Domske]

Thanks, good to know. But that was a mistake on my part. The rectangle of the Text Frame tool scales like all other objects. Only the text itself doesn't. So I have the same problem with a Text Frame with background. But thanks anyway, this reduces my group by one object. It's helpful, so that I must only change the size of one element after scaling the group. However, I still think that locking the scaling of objects is a good feature request, if this is not yet possible.

Heres one use case dimensioning. But I also see use cases in UI design prototyping, etc. But in this example, I want the white space with fixed width only behind the text. Currently I change it everytime I change the scale of the parent (group). For e.g. UI design a Toolbar with icons which you want to scale the width to the screen size, will strech the icons on width. Therefore locking scale for the icon would be great. And yes, I know that I could move the text above the arrow, this would solve the issue. But it's about the principle.

[carl123]

The transform panel has a scale override button. 

You can tell the Text whether to scale or not

Is that what you are looking for?

 

[Domske]

It has not effect. Btw. I thought the text frame content never scales with object, but anyway: There is no difference. I set all to locked and enabled the toggle button. Then scaled it, but it's the same result. But another feature I overlooked. Thanks for the hint.

Oh I know: "Scale override will only apply to aspect correct scaling." It's because text frame contents is locked by default. With Scale Override feature you can specify objects which are typically locked (e.g. lines, text frame) to scale with the object. But only if you use the scale handle at the bottom right for aspect scaling. But this feature is the right place for my request. Now we need an entry for general objects, which scale with object by default and which can be locked here. I guess that needs to be implemented first. I want to keep the text size and the size of the object. For now, I found a workaround by moving the text above the arrow or change text rect size manuelly every time I scaled the group.

[lepr]

3 hours ago, Domske said:

 

How to prevent objects within a group from scaling of the parent?

 

Experiment with the Constraints panel of Designer and Publisher’s Designer Persona. There are workarounds for problems you might encounter with so-called Constraint Groups.