Marghu Posted April 9 Posted April 9 (edited) You create and save a file byDesigner 2, after you change the name file, export it to pdf and open it, the name of opened pdf will be the first name of the file you had created. Has anyone had the same problem? Edited April 9 by Marghu Quote
Pšenda Posted April 9 Posted April 9 6 hours ago, Marghu said: the name of opened pdf The name of the exported file is the same as the name you enter when saving the file. For me, the name of the document (afdesign file) is always offered, only with the appropriate extension pdf. Can you provide a screen recording of how exactly you proceed when exporting and then opening it? 6 hours ago, Marghu said: after you change the name file Do you mean SaveAs? Quote Affinity Store (MSI/EXE): Affinity Suite (ADe, APh, APu) 2.5.7.2948 (Retail) Dell OptiPlex 7060, i5-8500 3.00 GHz, 16 GB, Intel UHD Graphics 630, Dell P2417H 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 24H2, Build 26100.2605. Dell Latitude E5570, i5-6440HQ 2.60 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics 530, 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 24H2, Build 26100.2605. Intel NUC5PGYH, Pentium N3700 2.40 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics, EIZO EV2456 1920 x 1200, Windows 10 Pro, Version 21H1, Build 19043.2130.
Marghu Posted April 9 Author Posted April 9 Thanks for your reply I recorded a video explaining the problem: https://drive.google.com/file/d/11Vzn9eFDNo0iDfYoQC9BZpVLfw70WiUj/view?usp=sharing Quote
Hangman Posted April 9 Posted April 9 Hi @Marghu and welcome to the forums, This is happening because when the document is initially saved, the file name given to the file is stored internally as the Document's Title. The problem, however, is that you can only see and edit the Document Title in Publisher either by deleting the default name or by giving it a new name... The only way around this is to open the original Designer file and resave it using the new filename rather than editing the filename in Windows Explorer, as this will update the Document Info Title internally, but it does mean you'll end up with two Affinity Designer files... Quote Affinity Designer 2.6.3 | Affinity Photo 2.6.3 | Affinity Publisher 2.6.3 MacBook Pro M3 Max, 36 GB Unified Memory, macOS Sonoma 14.6.1, Magic Mouse HP ENVY x360, 8 GB RAM, AMD Ryzen 5 2500U, Windows 10 Home, Logitech Mouse
Pšenda Posted April 9 Posted April 9 40 minutes ago, Marghu said: I recorded a video explaining the problem: As you can see, the "pdf file name" is BBBBBBBB.pdf, not AAAAAAAA.pdf. What is displayed in the browser title is not the file name, but the internally stored document name (this is set in the application when the file name is first entered). Quote Affinity Store (MSI/EXE): Affinity Suite (ADe, APh, APu) 2.5.7.2948 (Retail) Dell OptiPlex 7060, i5-8500 3.00 GHz, 16 GB, Intel UHD Graphics 630, Dell P2417H 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 24H2, Build 26100.2605. Dell Latitude E5570, i5-6440HQ 2.60 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics 530, 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 24H2, Build 26100.2605. Intel NUC5PGYH, Pentium N3700 2.40 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics, EIZO EV2456 1920 x 1200, Windows 10 Pro, Version 21H1, Build 19043.2130.
Marghu Posted April 10 Author Posted April 10 14 hours ago, Hangman said: The only way around this is to open the original Designer file and resave it using the new filename rather than editing the filename in Windows Explorer, as this will update the Document Info Title internally, but it does mean you'll end up with two Affinity Designer files... I tried it but doesn't work. I've saved as new file, opened the new file, when I exported it as pdf it had still the first name Quote
Marghu Posted April 10 Author Posted April 10 14 hours ago, Pšenda said: As you can see, the "pdf file name" is BBBBBBBB.pdf, not AAAAAAAA.pdf. What is displayed in the browser title is not the file name, but the internally stored document name (this is set in the application when the file name is first entered). Yes but if I open the file by a program, every type of program, the title will be the wrong name, that isn't professional for send it to a customer Quote
Pšenda Posted April 10 Posted April 10 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Marghu said: that isn't professional for send it to a customer If you are sending a document to a customer, I assume that you will "fill in" all metadata items, such as document title, author, document description, etc. Leaving this to an application that does not do it correctly due to your inappropriate procedure (renaming the file outside the application) is unprofessional. By the way, I once wrote on the forum that automatically inserting the file name as the document name is not correct - the name should remain empty/undefined until the user enters it. Automatic filling of an undefined document name, which is unfortunately not implemented correctly (the used file name should be respected at all times, not just during the first setup), then brings these undesirable consequences. Edited April 10 by Pšenda HCl 1 Quote Affinity Store (MSI/EXE): Affinity Suite (ADe, APh, APu) 2.5.7.2948 (Retail) Dell OptiPlex 7060, i5-8500 3.00 GHz, 16 GB, Intel UHD Graphics 630, Dell P2417H 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 24H2, Build 26100.2605. Dell Latitude E5570, i5-6440HQ 2.60 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics 530, 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 24H2, Build 26100.2605. Intel NUC5PGYH, Pentium N3700 2.40 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics, EIZO EV2456 1920 x 1200, Windows 10 Pro, Version 21H1, Build 19043.2130.
Hangman Posted April 10 Posted April 10 15 minutes ago, Marghu said: I tried it but doesn't work. I've saved as new file, opened the new file, when I exported it as pdf it had still the first name Create a new Designer document Save it as AAAAA.afdesign Export to PDF using the default name, and it will show AAAAA.pdf in PDF Readers Close and then reopen the document Save it as BBBBB.afdesign Export to PDF using the default name, and it will show BBBBB.pdf in PDF Readers Quote Affinity Designer 2.6.3 | Affinity Photo 2.6.3 | Affinity Publisher 2.6.3 MacBook Pro M3 Max, 36 GB Unified Memory, macOS Sonoma 14.6.1, Magic Mouse HP ENVY x360, 8 GB RAM, AMD Ryzen 5 2500U, Windows 10 Home, Logitech Mouse
Marghu Posted April 10 Author Posted April 10 11 minutes ago, Hangman said: Create a new Designer document Save it as AAAAA.afdesign Export to PDF using the default name, and it will show AAAAA.pdf in PDF Readers Close and then reopen the document Save it as BBBBB.afdesignthe cre Export to PDF using the default name, and it will show BBBBB.pdf in PDF Readers OK I still tried and now it worked. I tried also modifiyng the metadata in publisher and also this works. But I still think this procedures are not the best, should be more simple, I think the Affinity creators should fix this thing. However thank you very much for your help Hangman 1 Quote
Pšenda Posted April 10 Posted April 10 3 minutes ago, Marghu said: I tried also modifiyng the metadata in publisher and also this works. Be aware that whatever the implementation in Affinity and whatever the file naming procedure, actively filling in metadata is the only right way. You must always consider the situation that the customer renames the transferred pdf file (for example, according to their document management convention to "Document from Marghu, version 1"), then the "file name" will not correspond to the "document name" at all. Quote Affinity Store (MSI/EXE): Affinity Suite (ADe, APh, APu) 2.5.7.2948 (Retail) Dell OptiPlex 7060, i5-8500 3.00 GHz, 16 GB, Intel UHD Graphics 630, Dell P2417H 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 24H2, Build 26100.2605. Dell Latitude E5570, i5-6440HQ 2.60 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics 530, 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 24H2, Build 26100.2605. Intel NUC5PGYH, Pentium N3700 2.40 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics, EIZO EV2456 1920 x 1200, Windows 10 Pro, Version 21H1, Build 19043.2130.
Marghu Posted April 10 Author Posted April 10 30 minutes ago, Pšenda said: If you are sending a document to a customer, I assume that you will "fill in" all metadata items, such as document title, author, document description, etc. Leaving this to an application that does not do it correctly due to your inappropriate procedure (renaming the file outside the application) is unprofessional. By the way, I once wrote on the forum that automatically inserting the file name as the document name is not correct - the name should remain empty/undefined until the user enters it. Automatic filling of an undefined document name, which is unfortunately not implemented correctly (the used file name should be respected at all times, not just during the first setup), then brings these undesirable consequences. I have been working as graphic designer for 15 years and I never needed of modifiyng metadata, my types of clients see only the file and its title. However it's my choice if to use metadata or not, but any way the program should still offers easier way to change the file's name or even change metadata. Quote
zeeloop Posted April 14 Posted April 14 Hi Marghu Same here. This new bug is in Publisher too. Open the PDF in Acrobat go to > Properties > Description, there you can see that file name and title differ from each other. Cheers Quote
Hangman Posted April 14 Posted April 14 7 minutes ago, zeeloop said: Same here. This new bug is in Publisher too. Open the PDF in Acrobat go to > Properties > Description, there you can see that file name and title differ from each other. They will differ if the Document Title in Publisher (shown in the Fields panel) differs from the Filename in Publisher... The Document Title is used, which is given when the file is initially and subsequently saved... In Acrobat, you have the option to 'Always use filename as document title' which you can check under Acrobat's Document Preferences... Quote Affinity Designer 2.6.3 | Affinity Photo 2.6.3 | Affinity Publisher 2.6.3 MacBook Pro M3 Max, 36 GB Unified Memory, macOS Sonoma 14.6.1, Magic Mouse HP ENVY x360, 8 GB RAM, AMD Ryzen 5 2500U, Windows 10 Home, Logitech Mouse
zeeloop Posted April 15 Posted April 15 Hi Hangman Yes, you can change or delete the title field in Acrobat. The question is, was there an Affinity version in the past which automatically filled in the title field? Most of my Affinity documents do have an entry in that field although I'm sure I never typed in anything manually. Quote
Hangman Posted April 15 Posted April 15 Hi @zeeloop, As far as I'm aware, the Document Title is always entered automatically when the file is saved. Create a new Publisher file and show the Fields panel Save the file, and the Document Title in the Fields panel is automatically populated with the filename you give your file Make an edit to the file and save it using a new name The Document Info Title is updated to reflect the new filename Export the file using a different name, and the Document Info Title is still used as the display name in Acrobat Reader rather than the filename given Check 'Always use filename as document title' under the Acrobat Reader Preferences, and the display name will appear as the filename name given on export Quote Affinity Designer 2.6.3 | Affinity Photo 2.6.3 | Affinity Publisher 2.6.3 MacBook Pro M3 Max, 36 GB Unified Memory, macOS Sonoma 14.6.1, Magic Mouse HP ENVY x360, 8 GB RAM, AMD Ryzen 5 2500U, Windows 10 Home, Logitech Mouse
zeeloop Posted April 15 Posted April 15 Hi Hangman The Steps 3/4 work as you say, but as soon as you change the file's name outside of Publisher like in Mac's Finder, the title field stops updating, even if you do another «save as» from within Publisher (at least in Affinity Publisher 2 2.6.2 under Mac OS Sequoia 15.4). Step 6 doesn't make sense as it only works for yourself but not for other people viewing the PDF on their system. No problem with Adobe InDesign as it doesn't automatically fill in the title field. Quote
Hangman Posted April 15 Posted April 15 Hi @zeeloop, 47 minutes ago, zeeloop said: The Steps 3/4 work as you say, but as soon as you change the file's name outside of Publisher like in Mac's Finder, the title field stops updating, even if you do another «save as» from within Publisher (at least in Affinity Publisher 2 2.6.2 under Mac OS Sequoia 15.4). The only way I know to avoid that is to delete the Document Title in Publisher... that will avoid the need to check 'Always use filename as document title' under the Acrobat Reader Preferences, and it will then honour any change of filename in the macOS Finder... Quote Affinity Designer 2.6.3 | Affinity Photo 2.6.3 | Affinity Publisher 2.6.3 MacBook Pro M3 Max, 36 GB Unified Memory, macOS Sonoma 14.6.1, Magic Mouse HP ENVY x360, 8 GB RAM, AMD Ryzen 5 2500U, Windows 10 Home, Logitech Mouse
Pšenda Posted April 15 Posted April 15 5 hours ago, zeeloop said: No problem with Adobe InDesign as it doesn't automatically fill in the title field. Auto-filling the "Document Title" based on the file name, which is not/may not be consistent with the file name, is a bad decision. On 4/10/2025 at 10:37 AM, Pšenda said: By the way, I once wrote on the forum that automatically inserting the file name as the document name is not correct - the name should remain empty/undefined until the user enters it. The correct procedure for preparing a PDF document is to create the document (or use template with metadata), enter metadata (Document Name, Author, Document Description - it's a shame that the author is not part of the template), and then save it - where the file name itself is irrelevant in relation to the Document Name. Quote Affinity Store (MSI/EXE): Affinity Suite (ADe, APh, APu) 2.5.7.2948 (Retail) Dell OptiPlex 7060, i5-8500 3.00 GHz, 16 GB, Intel UHD Graphics 630, Dell P2417H 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 24H2, Build 26100.2605. Dell Latitude E5570, i5-6440HQ 2.60 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics 530, 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 24H2, Build 26100.2605. Intel NUC5PGYH, Pentium N3700 2.40 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics, EIZO EV2456 1920 x 1200, Windows 10 Pro, Version 21H1, Build 19043.2130.
zeeloop Posted April 16 Posted April 16 The bug should be removed as soon as possible throughout the apps. Quote
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