Layer Visibility Out of Sync When an Artboard is Nested Inside a Layer

wesleyb · March 10

Layer visibility option is available. But, in beta build, layer visibility toggle fails in at least two scenarios:

if Artboard (with Layers) is itself in a Layer (see STEP 3)
if Artboard has a sibling that is a Layer (see STEP 6)

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Should I report this as a separate bug?

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PROBLEM

Given a placed document,
And that document has an Artboard with layers,
And that Artboard is either within a layer or has a sibling that is a layer,
Then I toggling visibility of Layers in placed document behaves both unexpectedly and inconsistently.

Q&A

What Application are you using?
- Designer
Are you using the latest release version?
- Yes, 2.6.2 (3187).
Can you reproduce it?
- Yes.
Does it happen for a new document? If not can you upload a document that shows the problem?
- Yes. Yes.
[…]

STEPS

Create a Document 3 ("Doc 3") with N layers in 1 Artboard.
"Place" that document into a Document 2B ("Doc 2B").
- embedded or linked, does not matter
Doc 2B: ✅ I toggle Layers of Doc 1 and see expected changes in content visibility.
Doc 3: Add the Artboard into a new Layer.
Doc 2B: ❌ I toggle layers of Doc3 and see unexpected changes in content visibility.
1. Toggle "box" Layer, Both Layers' Content Not visible
  1. Toggle "box" layer off, both "circle" and "box" layer content disappear.
  2. Toggle any layers in any way, "box" layer content will never return.
  3. To restore "box" layer content, relink or modify Doc 3.
2. Toggle "circle" Layer, "circle" Layer 's Content Not visible
  1. Toggle "circle" layer off, then "box" layer content disappears. (The "box" layer is still visible.)
  2. Toggle any layers in any way, "box" layer content will never return.
  3. To restore "box" layer, relink or modify Doc 3.
Doc 3: Move the Artboard out of the Layer.
Doc 2B: ❌ Toggle behavior is not fixed i.e. unexpected.
Doc 3: Delete the empty Layer (from step 6) that had contained an Artboard.
Doc 2B: ✅ Toggle behavior is fixed i.e. expected.

I also minimally tested with a Group instead of a Layer — toggle behavior was fixed i.e. as expected.

RESOURCES

Files:

Videos:

✅ Step 3:

Step 3.mov

❌ Step 5:

Step 5.mov

SCREENSHOTS

✅ Artboard (that has Layers) NOT in a Layer

Doc 3 Step 1:

Doc 2B Step 3:

❌ Artboard (that has Layers) IS in a Layer

Doc 3 Step 4:

Doc 2B Step 5-1:

Doc 2B Step 5-2:

❌ NOT Able to Resolve Issue By Just Toggling nor Hide/Show All

Doc 2B Step 5-1-2 and Step 5-2-2:

Edited March 10 by wesleyb
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wesleyb · March 10

@Affinity Info Bot see above report of related follow-up bug.

wesleyb · March 12

I think nested Layers within Artboard also cause layer-toggle bug.

I'm too tired to write up another report.

Note, nested Artboards do not cause layer-toggle bug.

wesleyb · March 13

I learn (via a recent post) that the follow-up bug may arise because I am using the software in an unintended manner. If I am, then perhaps the software — in the layers menu of a linked document instance — could hide or disable layers whose visibility can/should not be toggled (because of unsupported complexity).

EmT · March 28

Hi @wesleyb

Could you attach the documents you are referencing so we can clearly see your layer structure, this is not something I have been able to reproduce.

wesleyb · March 29

Yup. Links to my files are in follow-up report comment at "Resources": "Files":

I am not able to verify those links nor re-attach right now.

wesleyb · March 29

I just downloaded and tested the files:

(from original report) Test Placed Doc Layer Visibility - Doc 1.afdesign
(from follow-up report) Test Placed Doc Layer Visibility - Doc 2B.afdesign
(from follow-up report) Test Placed Doc Layer Visibility - Doc 3.afdesign

In A.D. Beta v2.6.2.3187:

original report is fixed ✅
follow-up report exists ❌

In A.D. Beta v2.6.2.3228:

the behavior is different 🤔, but still seems wrong ⚠️

After download, I open Doc 2b and re-link doc 1 and doc; ✅ no problem: use linked documents.mov

Different layer hide and show than what I choose; wrong ❌ or confusing ⚠️: hide show layers.mov

Are there other questions I can answer? Should I re-upload the files? I've saved them with v2.6.2.3228 since opening them in it.

wesleyb · March 29

I test again in v2.6.2.3228. I begin to doubt my sanity. I am too tired to try to describe behavior. More videos:

3228 odd behavior even more.mov 3228 odd behavior more.mov

I've reattached the files, since saving them in A.D. Beta v2.6.2.3228:

Hangman · April 3

Hi @wesleyb,

I can confirm that when the Doc 3 Artboard is nested inside a Layer, and the file is placed inside a second Designer file, then toggling the respective Layers for the nested Doc 3 Artboard fails to identify the respective layers correctly...

While I agree this is not the expected behaviour, my first question would be 'why are you nesting an Artboard inside a Layer', i.e., what purpose does it serve?

wesleyb · April 5

Because I had not been certain when to use a layer or artboard or group. I have since learned better via a recent post. I admit I did not use the software in an expected manner. I don't pressure further work on this.

EmT · April 7

Thanks @wesleyb
This has been reported to the devs

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