Robert Gibson PWES Posted February 6 Posted February 6 Hi guys I have another question. I'm working on laying out a document that was sent to me. It was done originally in inDesign and was sent to me as a PDF. When I opened it in Publisher, I realize that all of the words starting with 'TH' look like the image below. I can easily Find and replace to change the capitalization, but I'm not sure if there is a way to automate making the kerning (Am I using it correctly? LOL) match for all of the instances of TH. I did open the 'Formatting' option in the gear next to the Replace part of the Find & Replace box, and found this But when I applied it I didn't see any change. I've used Alt+Right Arrow to manually loosen the space between the characters for one of the affected areas, but I don't want to have to do that for every instance if I can help it. What should I do? Quote
kenmcd Posted February 6 Posted February 6 Usually the Tracking is the issue with imported PDFs, not Kerning. So you need to set the Tracking back to the default. I am guessing the TH was probably a Th ligature which somehow got encoded in the PDF as capital letters. ID does include both characters in the ToUnicode table for ligatures. What font is that? I assume it has a Th ligature (which may fit the space). Cannot quite fathom the mechanics for this other than an ID error. Can you attach the original PDF (or at least a page). Quote
Robert Gibson PWES Posted February 6 Author Posted February 6 16 minutes ago, kenmcd said: Usually the Tracking is the issue with imported PDFs, not Kerning. So you need to set the Tracking back to the default. I am guessing the TH was probably a Th ligature which somehow got encoded in the PDF as capital letters. ID does include both characters in the ToUnicode table for ligatures. What font is that? I assume it has a Th ligature (which may fit the space). Cannot quite fathom the mechanics for this other than an ID error. Can you attach the original PDF (or at least a page). The page that I referenced at the beginning of this topic has been attached. The font is Adobe Caslon Pro. You're right, the font doesn't look like this in the original. NCF Voices Single Page.pdf Quote
thomaso Posted February 6 Posted February 6 30 minutes ago, Robert Gibson PWES said: The page that I referenced at the beginning of this topic has been attached. The font is Adobe Caslon Pro. NCF Voices Single Page.pdf The text in this PDF was converted to curves. If you used OCR to recreate the text this might cause the issue of confused characters and 'spacing'. Quote macOS 10.14.6 | MacBookPro Retina 15" | Eizo 27" | Affinity V1
Robert Gibson PWES Posted February 6 Author Posted February 6 I was trying to avoid sending the entire original document, but..... see it attached. Because these weren't curves, I don't think.... 212157 NCF Voices_Yvonne Weekes pages.pdf Quote
kenmcd Posted February 6 Posted February 6 Yes, it is a ligature (T_h), and it is encoded as TH (two characters). Weird. This looks like another case of Adobe purposely messing it up for other applications. They keep the correct data in their hidden sections, and put crap in the accessible data. Like they do with caps etc. Hmmm... it does have a correct glyph mapping to the ligature name, so a smarter application could perhaps figure it out. Dunno. Regardless, it should not have two uppercase characters mapped in the ToUnicode. Quote
Robert Gibson PWES Posted February 7 Author Posted February 7 Okay .... so how do I fix it LOL I'm learning on the fly... And yes that's rough how Adobe is messing it up for others lol Quote
Robert Gibson PWES Posted February 11 Author Posted February 11 Okay guys a simple find & replace can change the TH joined to Th .... but the letters are still so very close together.... is there a way to set the spacing 'automatically' or in the formatting parameters of the Replace? Before: After Obviously words like 'The', 'That' and the like are prolific throughout the text and I don't want to have to be forced to fix them individually. Any advice? Quote
MikeTO Posted February 11 Posted February 11 You can select all the text and then set kerning to Auto which will use the font's defaults rather than these messed up values. If that doesn't solve it then it's the tracking and you can select all the text and set tracking to 0%. Cheers Quote Download a free PDF manual for Affinity Publisher 2.6 Download a quick reference chart for Affinity's Special Characters Affinity 2.6 for macOS Sequoia 15.4, MacBook Pro (M4 Pro) and iPad Air (M2)
Robert Gibson PWES Posted February 11 Author Posted February 11 Okay thanks - the Tracking was already at 0% but it seemed to have been fixed at -1%. Okay thank you a million! MikeTO 1 Quote
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