chessdr Posted January 20 Posted January 20 In the first screenshot I have the text selected and choose the center alignment button but the text doesn't center? In the second screenshot the text looks centered, but the left-alignment is selected? Quote
GarryP Posted January 21 Posted January 21 Welcome to the forums @chessdr I haven’t been able to replicate this. I suspect that there might be a special character in there somewhere which is causing the problem, but I can’t be sure with the information you have given. Can you upload a copy of the document which contains only the Frame Text Layers that we can see in your screen-grabs (or the whole document if that's okay)? If you can’t do that, can you switch “Show Special Characters” ON in the Text menu and then give us a screenshot where we can also see your Character Panel and Paragraph Panel while the text is selected? Also, can you tell us how the text got into those Frame Text layers? Note: Full-screen screenshots (whole application UI) are much better for problem diagnosis than limited-area screen-grabs. Quote
walt.farrell Posted January 21 Posted January 21 Your first screenshot seems to show Artistic Text, and your second one seems to show Frame Text. A screenshot showing the complete application window, with the Layers panel, would be useful. Those two kinds of objects will behave differently, in some ways. Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2, 16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 18.3.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sequoia 15.0.1
GarryP Posted January 21 Posted January 21 7 minutes ago, walt.farrell said: Your first screenshot seems to show Artistic Text, and your second one seems to show Frame Text. Good catch. I really should have seen that myself. To explain for anyone reading this: In the first screen-grab there’s no ‘flying node’ at the bottom-right of the text layer as there is in the second screen-grab, so that suggests that the layer in the first screen-grab is an Artistic Text layer rather than a Frame Text layer. However, that doesn’t tell me, in the first screen-grab, why the text seems to be left-aligned when the centre-align button is active. I still can’t replicate the problem with an Artistic Text layer either. If chessdr can supply all of the requested material then it might be easier to figure out what’s happening. walt.farrell 1 Quote
Pšenda Posted January 21 Posted January 21 P.S. It looks like aligning text into table cells, where using individual text frames (of any type) is generally inappropriate because it requires manual position corrections. Quote Affinity Store (MSI/EXE): Affinity Suite (ADe, APh, APu) 2.5.7.2948 (Retail) Dell OptiPlex 7060, i5-8500 3.00 GHz, 16 GB, Intel UHD Graphics 630, Dell P2417H 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 24H2, Build 26100.2605. Dell Latitude E5570, i5-6440HQ 2.60 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics 530, 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 24H2, Build 26100.2605. Intel NUC5PGYH, Pentium N3700 2.40 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics, EIZO EV2456 1920 x 1200, Windows 10 Pro, Version 21H1, Build 19043.2130.
thomaso Posted January 21 Posted January 21 17 hours ago, chessdr said: not centering text in a text box Activate in the "Text" menu the option "Show Special Characters". Then check the frame's content for invisible characters like space, line break or paragraph break and select line by line separately to check their alignments. Below the option "Show Special Characters" helps to detect what's going on in this examples: … … Quote macOS 10.14.6 | MacBookPro Retina 15" | Eizo 27" | Affinity V1
Pšenda Posted January 21 Posted January 21 44 minutes ago, thomaso said: what's going on in this examples: In the second case, it is possible to "center" when aligning to the left by adding spaces, but in the first case, left alignment when centering is not yet explained - your example has a change of alignment from centering to left. Adding spaces after text does not affect centering, but tab stops do. It is possible to align text to the left this way (by adding the special Tab character). Quote Affinity Store (MSI/EXE): Affinity Suite (ADe, APh, APu) 2.5.7.2948 (Retail) Dell OptiPlex 7060, i5-8500 3.00 GHz, 16 GB, Intel UHD Graphics 630, Dell P2417H 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 24H2, Build 26100.2605. Dell Latitude E5570, i5-6440HQ 2.60 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics 530, 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 24H2, Build 26100.2605. Intel NUC5PGYH, Pentium N3700 2.40 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics, EIZO EV2456 1920 x 1200, Windows 10 Pro, Version 21H1, Build 19043.2130.
thomaso Posted January 21 Posted January 21 16 minutes ago, Pšenda said: your example has a change of alignment from centering to left. ... inside one frame and for both screenshots. – Note that in one screenshot all text is selected (like in the OP's), while in the other the text cursor is placed on the second line (which is indeed set to left aligned, but is in both screenshots). When we select a text frame with the Move tool, or select all text in a frame with the Text Tool, the interface reports some style attributes of the first character in the frame (or of the text selection), which in this case is centred. - Apparently these buttons work differently in the Paragraph Panel: none of the buttons is highlighted for this object, unlike the buttons in the Context Toolbar. Quote macOS 10.14.6 | MacBookPro Retina 15" | Eizo 27" | Affinity V1
chessdr Posted January 22 Author Posted January 22 OK, when I turned the Show Special Characters on, the "9313 Say" text box did have some kind of special characters, and after I removed these it seems centered. But I'm still puzzled with the "9339 Grundvig" text box. It seems like it's more centered when I choose the Left-align icon than when I choose the Centered one. As you can see there are no extra characters. I'm assuming all of the text should be centered within the blue-bounds of the object, right? I believe all of these text boxes were made by clicking on the Frame Text Tool and then entering the text. Those cells are not from a table, they are just free-form lines. Quote
Pšenda Posted January 22 Posted January 22 5 hours ago, chessdr said: Those cells are not from a table, they are just free-form lines. That's obvious, that's why I write "looks like". A much better and more convenient solution would be to use a real table (created using the Table Tool in APublisher), where the placement of text and its centering in individual cells would be done automatically. Quote Affinity Store (MSI/EXE): Affinity Suite (ADe, APh, APu) 2.5.7.2948 (Retail) Dell OptiPlex 7060, i5-8500 3.00 GHz, 16 GB, Intel UHD Graphics 630, Dell P2417H 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 24H2, Build 26100.2605. Dell Latitude E5570, i5-6440HQ 2.60 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics 530, 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 24H2, Build 26100.2605. Intel NUC5PGYH, Pentium N3700 2.40 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics, EIZO EV2456 1920 x 1200, Windows 10 Pro, Version 21H1, Build 19043.2130.
thomaso Posted January 22 Posted January 22 7 hours ago, chessdr said: did have some kind of special characters, and after I removed these it seems centered. But I'm still puzzled with the "9339 Grundvig" text box. It seems like it's more centered when I choose the Left-align icon than when I choose the Centered one. As you can see there are no extra characters. Also for the "Grundvig" box there seems to be an unwanted setting. It could be an indent for instance: If available in AD 2, activate the "Text Ruler" (menu View?). This shows additional indicators (e.g. indents, tabs, the current cursor position). Quote macOS 10.14.6 | MacBookPro Retina 15" | Eizo 27" | Affinity V1
Oufti Posted January 22 Posted January 22 1 hour ago, thomaso said: If available in AD 2, activate the "Text Ruler" (menu View?). Yes, it's also available in v.2, in the View menu. R C-R 1 Quote Affinity Suite 2.5 – Monterey 12.7.5 – MacBookPro 14" 2021 M1 Pro 16Go/1To I apologise for any approximations in my English. It is not my mother tongue.
R C-R Posted January 22 Posted January 22 6 hours ago, Oufti said: Yes, it's also available in v.2, in the View menu. ??? @thomaso asked if Text Ruler was available in AD 2 (Affinity Designer v2). I do not see that anywhere in my AD v2 app, just in APub. thomaso and Oufti 2 Quote All 3 1.10.8, & all 3 V2.6 Mac apps; 2020 iMac 27"; 3.8GHz i7, Radeon Pro 5700, 32GB RAM; macOS 10.15.7 All 3 V2 apps for iPad; 6th Generation iPad 32 GB; Apple Pencil; iPadOS 15.7
Oufti Posted January 22 Posted January 22 19 minutes ago, R C-R said: ??? @thomaso asked if Text Ruler was available in AD 2 (Affinity Designer v2). I do not see that anywhere in my AD v2 app, just in APub. Damned! You are right. It's only available in APublisher v2 (which is my main Affinity tool…) Thank you for your vigilance. thomaso 1 Quote Affinity Suite 2.5 – Monterey 12.7.5 – MacBookPro 14" 2021 M1 Pro 16Go/1To I apologise for any approximations in my English. It is not my mother tongue.
chessdr Posted January 22 Author Posted January 22 14 hours ago, thomaso said: Also for the "Grundvig" box there seems to be an unwanted setting. It could be an indent for instance: If available in AD 2, activate the "Text Ruler" (menu View?). This shows additional indicators (e.g. indents, tabs, the current cursor position). That was it, thanks!! Quote
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