Soft proof adj layers aren't part of export, right?

[nickbatz]

Affinity Photo Mac. Just checking to make sure I'm not committing a double-profiling crime.

I never used to trust the soft proofing in Affinity Photo, but either it or the ICC profile I'm using now * is better.

* Canson's profile for their fantastic Arches 88 paper 

[thomaso]

2 hours ago, nickbatz said:

Soft proof adj layers aren't part of export, right?

Yes. – Note, they offer printer profiles, too. https://www.canson-infinity.com/en/icc-profiles

And note Dan C's info: Affinity soft proof does not simulate paper colour:
(while the Arches 88 seems to be 'neutral white' this might not matter)

On 5/16/2022 at 4:47 PM, Dan C said:

On 5/13/2022 at 4:04 PM, thomaso said:

Finally the support recommended not to use Affinity for softproofing because of the missing option "Simulate paper color".

I can confirm that this is already logged as an improvement with our developers, so I'll be adding a few additional 'votes' to this now. 

[nickbatz]

14 minutes ago, thomaso said:

Yes. – Note, they offer printer profiles, too. https://www.canson-infinity.com/en/icc-profiles

And note Dan C's info: Affinity soft proof does not simulate paper colour:
(while the Arches 88 seems to be 'neutral white' this might not matter)

Thanks. The ICC profile is for the paper and printer combination (Canon Pro-1000 and Pro-4100, which is the same printer only larger). And yeah, the paper color... well, I get in arguments with photographers all the time who tell me I'm a not a real man unless I run out and buy a $3000 monitor that shows 100% Adobe RGB and a colorimeter and the right lighting...

None of that matters much for what I do, being an artist who works with photographic shapes and textures (mostly) rather than a photographer trying to match skin tones, etc. exactly without making proof prints.

I only need to get a decent preview of how the proof print is going to look so I can start with reasonable "mastering" adjustments to the brightness, saturation, maybe some of the colors, etc. Most of the time I make multiple proof prints along the way anyway.

But I don't want to apply the ICC profile twice.

[lepr]

11 hours ago, nickbatz said:

Soft proof adj layers aren't part of export, right?

Unlike a soft proof viewing mode found in many apps, Affinity's Soft Proof Adjustment operates like the other Adjustments in that it will affect the colours that are exported unless you switch off its visibility.

[walt.farrell]

10 hours ago, nickbatz said:

But I don't want to apply the ICC profile twice.

Then you'll need to disable (hide) the Soft Proof Adjustment layer before you Export.

[nickbatz]

So they are included in the export.

Okay, thanks, I'll turn them off.

However, thinking about this, it probably wouldn't make a difference if you apply the same profile twice. The first time would have done the translation already, so the second one wouldn't have anything to do.

I think, right?

[lepr]

 

34 minutes ago, nickbatz said:

However, thinking about this, it probably wouldn't make a difference if you apply the same profile twice. The first time would have done the translation already, so the second one wouldn't have anything to do.

I think, right?

No.

Imagine for simplicity's sake a profile that shifts all hues by 10 degrees. Apply that once and the shift is 10 degrees, apply it again and there is a further shift by 10 degrees, giving a resulting shift of 20 degrees.