Issues with footnotes, don't align with text frame

[DelDel]

Hello forum members!

I've come across an issue with footnotes. I'm trying to align them with the text frame, but they are not coorperating at all. My goal is for the footnotes to span across the bottom of the text frame, however there's always this gap below them. After hours of testing I realised that there are possibly two issues causing it:

1. An image frame with text wrap of 4mm spanning one column (I have no idea how that could affect a footnote.) If I remove the text wrap, the problem disappears.

2. If I decrease the image frame's height, the gap also disappears.

3. The footnotes spanning across two colums, however they for some reason think they are still spanning across one column, that's what may cause the gap.

(I replaced the text and the image in the screenshots as it's a rather personal project of mine, but the styles and formats still apply)

I tried to test around with a fresh new file and made no changes, but the same issue occurs here as well. No idea whether this is a recent bug, I couldn't find a single solution on the internet. I'm a bit desperate that's why I'm asking here as I already spent hours trying to fix it. Trust me, I probably tried everything already. Changing any of the footnote settings doesn't seem to do anything. Changing any of my formats and styles doesn't seem to do anything. The compromise here would be to just let the footnote go across just one column, even though I don't really prefer that, but what can I do?

I'm new to the software (though I used InDesign before), so I hope there isn't anything obvious I didn't catch.

I hope someone knows what's up because I have absolutely no idea :')

[Hangman]

Hi @DelDel and welcome to the forums,

I'm seeing the same issue and it makes little sense...

At first, I thought it may be the baseline grid at play but even without a baseline grid, I see the same issue with the picture frame. Even setting the text wrap offset for the picture frame to 0 mm makes no difference when the setting is Square or Tight...

I'm struggling to see why the picture frame influences the footnote positioning when the footnotes spans both columns...

The only 'solution' I could find was to change the initial advance positioning in the Notes panel from Leading to Fixed...

Perhaps someone else can shed some light on why the picture frame influences the footnote positioning when the text wrap is set to Square or Tight even with no offset value set...

Sample File

Footnotes.afpub

[MikeTO]

This is definitely a bug but it's easier to see what's happening with baseline grid turned off and the wrapped object positioned above the frame.

1. With Text Wrap off, the footnote is positioned correctly.
   
2. With Text Wrap on and Distance from Text > Bottom set to 4mm, the footnotes are now 4mm from the bottom of the frame
   
3. With Text Wrap on and Distance from Text > Bottom set to 40mm, the footnotes are now 40mm from the bottom of the frame
   

[Hangman]

53 minutes ago, MikeTO said:

This is definitely a bug but it's easier to see what's happening with baseline grid turned off and the wrapped object positioned above the frame.

It seems very reliant on the amount of text, i.e., when there is only one line of text I see Steps 1 and 2 but Step 3 is only around 12.5 mm for me... With the test file, I see similar yet differing behaviour even when the text wrap is set to 0 mm...

[DelDel]

On 1/7/2025 at 4:28 PM, MikeTO said:

This is definitely a bug but it's easier to see what's happening with baseline grid turned off and the wrapped object positioned above the frame.

Now it makes sense! Knowing that it's possibly a bug, makes me feel less stupid. I thought there was a setting I didn't see and it was maddening.

Thanks a lot for clearing it up! Will patiently wait for a bug fix then.

[Affinity Info Bot]

The issue "Text frames with overflowing text and text wrapped objects can cause footnote positioning to behave erratically" (REF: AF-1600) has been fixed by the developers in the latest beta build (2.6.0.3089). The fix is planned for inclusion in the next customer release.
Customer beta builds are announced here and you can participate by following these instructions.
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