Margin and master page problems

[TBA]

Hi. Having trouble setting correct margins in my document. Have setup for 6x9 facing pages with outer and inner margins as they should be. Have also aligned the linked text frames to these margins using guides. But! Having applied the master A to all pages the text refuses to align to the set magins and goes on using same inner and outer margins, why?

 

 

 

[PaulEC]

Margins are just visual guides, Text Frames do not automatically align to them. If the Text Frames are on your Master Page(s), you need to alighn them to the margins. If the Text Frames are on individual pages, you will need to align each page individually.

[TBA]

get that. but what's the point of having margins if they do not have any relation to frames? i might as well just use guides to see where the text begins and ends?

[PaulEC]

That's all margins are, a type of guide, although they do apply to the whole document. Guides can be placed on both Master Pages (so they show on all pages with that Master) or on single pages.

You don't always have Text Frames that fit to the margins, there is often other content as well on a page.

[TBA]

here's a bit of fun as well. I have added coloured frames to indicate margins and text frames, all good and well. Applied the master frame to the text and look what happens, the text flows outside the top margin and text frame?

[TBA]

in fact if we go a bit wilder and decrease the size of the text fram and then apply it to all pages...

 

it seems that the 'margins' are the only constraint on the space the text occupies. What then is the point of text linked frames?

[MikeTO]

Margin guides are just guides. You can position text inside or out of them, it's up to you.

For example, the main text frames in my Publisher manual are indented by 8p3 from the outer margins because I've left space for sidebar tips. I've added additional guides to help me position sidebar content.

This may all seem a bit much if your document is simple and your text frames will exactly fit inside the margin guides, but not all documents are structured that way.

[Oufti]

@TBA I think we should have a screenshot with the Layers panel open and its content revealed — or better yet a sample page of your document to look inside about what happens. 

I wonder if your text could not be in a Master Page text frame.