Staff Affinity Info Bot Posted March 20 Staff Posted March 20 An issue raised in this thread ("Smudge Brush Tool is too strong vs implementaion in 2.5") has now been reported to the developers by the testing team (Ref: AF-6387). Thank you very much for reporting this issue to us. Quote
Art51 Posted March 20 Posted March 20 @JaneV @Chris B Just wondering, are you certain your brush settings were exactly the same as in 2.5? I only ask as I've also rolled back to 2.5.7 because of this and a few other bugs and when I installed the new 2.6.2 Beta 3213 I noticed the settings of my favourite smudge brush had changed a little. When I modified them to match the ones in 2.5.7 I'm getting the same results in both. By my estimation and experimentation, this Beta has fixed the anomaly I was experiencing, i.e. forced spacing and too much 'strength', and returned my brush to its previous expected behaviour. For those folk wanting a stronger smudge as 2.6.0 introduced, they can do so by modifying their settings, namely spacing and strength. Note, I'm using a drawing display with stylus as my input device. Below is a comparison of the exact same brush settings in 2.5.7 and Beta 2.6.2 (3213). 2.5.7: Smudge 257.mp4 262 (3213): Smudge 262 Beta 3213.mp4 Unfortunately, I have found a bug (that was briefly mentioned by @paolo.limoncelli earlier) in that if I use a mouse as my input device then the smudge brush seems to sample and stamp colour (or transparency in transparent areas) when single-clicking with the mouse. Note, however, if the mouse button is held in and the brush is dragged then the colour does not transfer. This single-click behaviour doesn't occur with my drawing display and stylus. See video using the mouse below: Smudge stamp 262 Beta 3213.mp4 Quote
JaneV Posted March 21 Posted March 21 Yes the settings were the really the same, as I use the brush often I am clear of its difference and it's lack of ability to achieve what I need with the new version; one of the staff has recreated what I did and confirmed they had the same result and has logged the problem. Quote
Art51 Posted March 21 Posted March 21 No worries @JaneV. I thought it might pay to check. As you can see, my experience (with a round soft brush) is the equal opposite of yours. As demonstrated, my exact same settings behave in exactly the same way. Perhaps there might be an issue with specific brushes when used as the Smudge tool? This has been raised already. I'd be interested to know how @Chris B was able to confirm your experience when you didn't provide details of the brush you used, whether you're using a mouse or stylus, your OS, hardware acceleration settings etc. and so how he was able to replicate your anomaly and able to provide the developers details. Perhaps there is something other users - like myself - aren't investigating in relation to systems and/or settings. Maybe someone else will chime in with their findings and shed light on the matter. As noted in my other posts re the Smudge Tool, my system is: 2019 i9 MacBook Pro 16" with AMD 5600M and Ventura 13.7.4 with Hardware acceleration ON. XP Pen Artist 24 QHD as input device. Quote
paolo.limoncelli Posted March 21 Author Posted March 21 I can confirm that those bugs look gone so far... smudgeBugGone.mp4 Regarding the strongness it seems to be working correctly now, in a way comparable to other software. To be fair, it always felt rather soft in previous releases… So I wonder if the artifacts, combined with the "erasing" effect, were also a result of its legacy behavior. But I do not use it for photo retouching... Quote DAUB® Brushes making tools for artists, illustrators and doodlers
Art51 Posted March 21 Posted March 21 That's great to read your original artefact bugs have also been fixed. Regarding the tool as it is now, I'm able to achieve a wide range of smudge strength and nuance with the various settings now the edit panel bugs have been resolved. Hopefully there's nothing I've overlooked in my testing. I've made a new bug report for the small issue I noted in my post above (the 3rd video in the post with three video examples). Quote
paolo.limoncelli Posted March 25 Author Posted March 25 Yep it looks like that (within the internal cycle) it stars from the last sampled dab. Quote DAUB® Brushes making tools for artists, illustrators and doodlers
JaneV Posted April 21 Posted April 21 Hi Chris B, has there been any developments with bringing back the smudge brush before 2.6? Thanks Quote
Staff Chris B Posted April 22 Staff Posted April 22 16 hours ago, JaneV said: Hi Chris B, has there been any developments with bringing back the smudge brush before 2.6? Thanks Not yet I'm afraid. You will get a notification from the Affinity Info Bot once anything has happened JaneV 1 Quote How to format a bug report | Learning Resources | List of V2 FAQs | YouTube Tutorials
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