iaing Posted December 12, 2024 Posted December 12, 2024 So 6 YEARS after I first posted this bug it's still not fixed!!!! Yes the bleed gets exported correctly, but I shouldn't have to export blind and inspect it just to check I've got my bleed everywhere correctly!!! Please Fix 🙏 (the bleed guides are visible, the content within the bleed area is not) Quote MacBook Pro M1 Max, macOS 12.6.1 Monterey Affinity Designer : 2.0 Affinity Photo: 2.0, Affinity Publisher: 2.0
loukash Posted December 12, 2024 Posted December 12, 2024 2 hours ago, iaing said: I shouldn't have to export blind and inspect it And you don't have to: select all content of the artboard optionally: wrap everything into a layer for convenient handling in the Layers panel, drag everything outside, on top of the artboard voilà But yes, the lack of visible bleed area is definitely a bug, not a "feature". Quote MacBookAir 15": MacOS Ventura > Affinity v1, v2, v2 beta // MacBookPro 15" mid-2012: MacOS El Capitan > Affinity v1 / MacOS Catalina > Affinity v1, v2, v2 beta // iPad 8th: iPadOS 16 > Affinity v2
Markus Plutonika Posted January 28 Posted January 28 OMG, this is a six year old issue? I just found out today, that content in the bleed area is not showing and why this happens. That adds to an evergrowing list of why my team is reluctant to switch to Affinity from Adobe for print workflows. Please fix it, amazing team at Serif/Canva. Thank you! Quote
somagfx Posted Tuesday at 08:48 PM Posted Tuesday at 08:48 PM I was searching my lower cheeks off finding a toggle button or something in the settings to turn on the visibility of the bleed section. Sadly there isn't any. Now the internet search let me to this forum and a old post from V1. And the search here pushed me to this topic...I am kinda disappointed that this kinda important issue is still not fixed. Hmm...why? Does anyone know if it's fixed in the beta version? Quote
Komatös Posted Tuesday at 10:08 PM Posted Tuesday at 10:08 PM 1 hour ago, somagfx said: Does anyone know In Affinity Designer, artboards are nothing more than container layers. And as with any container, elements cannot protrude from the container frame. So, the main answer is: No.This is not a bug, but by design PaulEC 1 Quote MAC mini M4 | MacOS Sequoia 15.2 | 16 GB RAM | 256 GB SSD AMD Ryzen 7 5700X | INTEL Arc A770 LE 16 GB | 32 GB DDR4 3200MHz | Windows 11 Pro 24H2 (26100.2605) Affinity Suite V 2.5.7 & Beta 2.6 (latest) Interested in a free (selfhosted) PDF Solution? Have a look at Stirling PDF Ferengi Acquisition Rule No. 49: “A deal is a deal is a deal.”
PROdult Posted Tuesday at 11:41 PM Posted Tuesday at 11:41 PM A bit of disappointment and disagreement, and the explanation provided - while likely technically correct - was not very transparent for all types of customers. Would it be possible to have a Serif representative clarify this in terms that end users can understand, specifically the difference between artboards and regular pages in relation to the above? It would also be highly beneficial if this were expanded upon in the documentation. In any case, I find it most credible when a company itself explains what is by design - and why. (I am well aware that they usually don’t, but they are here, and I see no point in customers explaining their design choices - only Serif knows.) Quote
Komatös Posted Wednesday at 08:30 AM Posted Wednesday at 08:30 AM 8 hours ago, PROdult said: A bit of disappointment and disagreement, An artboard is nothing more than a shape layer where you add other elements as child layers, except that the child layers are automatically inserted in an artboard. And as it is now, it is by design. It's best to think of an artboard as a digital sheet of paper; you can't draw or paint anything over its edges. Quote MAC mini M4 | MacOS Sequoia 15.2 | 16 GB RAM | 256 GB SSD AMD Ryzen 7 5700X | INTEL Arc A770 LE 16 GB | 32 GB DDR4 3200MHz | Windows 11 Pro 24H2 (26100.2605) Affinity Suite V 2.5.7 & Beta 2.6 (latest) Interested in a free (selfhosted) PDF Solution? Have a look at Stirling PDF Ferengi Acquisition Rule No. 49: “A deal is a deal is a deal.”
Markus Plutonika Posted Wednesday at 10:29 AM Posted Wednesday at 10:29 AM 1 hour ago, Komatös said: An artboard is nothing more than a shape layer where you add other elements as child layers, except that the child layers are automatically inserted in an artboard. And as it is now, it is by design. It's best to think of an artboard as a digital sheet of paper; you can't draw or paint anything over its edges. I assumed something along these lines as it also serves as the explanation for an artboard not being able to snap to its child elements. However this still doesn’t explain why an artboard can be exported with bleed but not displayed. And while the functionality of artboards obviously is by design, it’s a bit of a stretch to claim that their shortcomings are as well. They are just sacrifices being made for some "greater good". Don’t get me wrong — I really love Affinity’s artboards. However not being able to see what is in a bleed area before exporting might be negligible for some, for others it can mean tedious multiple exports. Mind that exporting large print formats can take its sweet time. In a world where human designers and artists struggle to compete with machine generated images, videos and music neither "by design" nor "impossible" sound really convincing. Sorry … PROdult 1 Quote
loukash Posted Wednesday at 11:12 AM Posted Wednesday at 11:12 AM 11 hours ago, PROdult said: a company itself explains what is by design - and why Here's one: To work around the missing bleed preview in artboards: You're welcome. PROdult 1 Quote MacBookAir 15": MacOS Ventura > Affinity v1, v2, v2 beta // MacBookPro 15" mid-2012: MacOS El Capitan > Affinity v1 / MacOS Catalina > Affinity v1, v2, v2 beta // iPad 8th: iPadOS 16 > Affinity v2
PROdult Posted Wednesday at 12:37 PM Posted Wednesday at 12:37 PM My stance is, by design, that in such disagreements or debates about A and B, I simply want to hear the company behind it explain why something is by design, whether they originally overlooked something when building the feature, and whether customers’ needs can or will be supported. Primary sources with exact knowledge always trump secondary and tertiary sources based on assumptions. And they save time. And time is money - for some of us here, at least. I’m here to become smarter, more efficient, and more productive - not poorer in time and money. By the way, thanks, @loukash Quote
loukash Posted Wednesday at 01:16 PM Posted Wednesday at 01:16 PM 30 minutes ago, PROdult said: My stance is, by design, that in such disagreements or debates about A and B, I simply want to hear the company behind it explain why something is by design More often than not, when experienced forum users state that something is (likely) "by design", it is quite likely based on an earlier statement by staff. Else, feel free to search the forum for older staff statements on a particular topic. Just like I did above. Caveat: the search result don't show the "Staff" badges (actually they can't: I asked already about it, but apparently there's no such option in the forum software). You may want to look up staff user names here first: https://forum.affinity.serif.com/index.php?/staff Quote MacBookAir 15": MacOS Ventura > Affinity v1, v2, v2 beta // MacBookPro 15" mid-2012: MacOS El Capitan > Affinity v1 / MacOS Catalina > Affinity v1, v2, v2 beta // iPad 8th: iPadOS 16 > Affinity v2
PROdult Posted Wednesday at 02:07 PM Posted Wednesday at 02:07 PM I’m generally not very impressed by the experienced forum contributors here. It quickly becomes apparent that many have more experience with the forum itself than with actual graphic workspaces. Regardless, my stance remains the same: I work to create and make money, not to waste valuable time verifying statements from experienced secondary or tertiary sources. And if there are enough questions on an issue, there is enough material for a solid FAQ or scenario-based documentation - created by Serif. It’s unbserious to have to search through a forum. If some users are so enriched with experience, they can step down from the podium and instead quote the staff directly for such statements from the source - just as you kindly did. That’s a win for everyone. One person’s laziness shouldn’t become another person’s task. I see a pattern where it’s probably faster and more constructive for us if I write directly to Serif. 🙂 My coffee breaks are too precious to spend in here. 🙂 Oufti 1 Quote
Markus Plutonika Posted Thursday at 04:29 PM Posted Thursday at 04:29 PM And all the while there’s still no reasonable explanation why an artboard’s bleed can be exported but not displayed in the UI … Quote
loukash Posted Thursday at 05:44 PM Posted Thursday at 05:44 PM 1 hour ago, Markus Plutonika said: still no reasonable explanation On 2/4/2025 at 11:08 PM, Komatös said: artboards are nothing more than container layers. And as with any container, elements cannot protrude from the container frame. Quote MacBookAir 15": MacOS Ventura > Affinity v1, v2, v2 beta // MacBookPro 15" mid-2012: MacOS El Capitan > Affinity v1 / MacOS Catalina > Affinity v1, v2, v2 beta // iPad 8th: iPadOS 16 > Affinity v2
Markus Plutonika Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago 15 hours ago, loukash said: But how can they protrude in the exported PDF then? Quote
loukash Posted 18 hours ago Posted 18 hours ago 2 hours ago, Markus Plutonika said: But how can they protrude in the exported PDF then? Touché! Good point… Quote MacBookAir 15": MacOS Ventura > Affinity v1, v2, v2 beta // MacBookPro 15" mid-2012: MacOS El Capitan > Affinity v1 / MacOS Catalina > Affinity v1, v2, v2 beta // iPad 8th: iPadOS 16 > Affinity v2
Markus Plutonika Posted 17 hours ago Posted 17 hours ago 51 minutes ago, loukash said: Touché! Good point… That’s why I’m so horribly insistent … 😁 Quote
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