anto Posted December 11, 2024 Posted December 11, 2024 I needed to export a 168-page photo book and Publisher wouldn't do it. It exported for more than two hours and the progress bar remained stationary. I restarted both the computer and Publisher several times, but it didn't help. In the end, I exported 5 files of several pages each. In total, the total size of the PDFs is 3.5 GB. Where is the problem? Why did Publisher hang and not want to export everything in one file? Quote
Hangman Posted December 11, 2024 Posted December 11, 2024 Hi @anto, Are the photos in your photo book embedded or linked? Quote Affinity Designer 2.6.0 | Affinity Photo 2.6.0 | Affinity Publisher 2.6.0 MacBook Pro M3 Max, 36 GB Unified Memory, macOS Sonoma 14.6.1, Magic Mouse HP ENVY x360, 8 GB RAM, AMD Ryzen 5 2500U, Windows 10 Home, Logitech Mouse
anto Posted December 11, 2024 Author Posted December 11, 2024 34 minutes ago, Hangman said: Hi @anto, Are the photos in your photo book embedded or linked? Linked Quote
walt.farrell Posted December 11, 2024 Posted December 11, 2024 2 hours ago, anto said: Linked And where are they located? What exact release of Publisher are you using? What PDF Export options did you choose? Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2, 16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 18.3.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sequoia 15.0.1
anto Posted December 11, 2024 Author Posted December 11, 2024 4 minutes ago, walt.farrell said: And where are they located? What exact release of Publisher are you using? What PDF Export options did you choose? I have the files on my computer. I'm trying with 2.5.7 now. The same problem. The file has been exporting for 1 hour and 30 minutes, and the export is still far from complete. Up to half of the export was done in 10 minutes, and then Publisher thinks and thinks, although all the photos are in the same resolution and ready for printing. Although, when I exported in parts yesterday, it was much faster. Quote
Latens Posted December 11, 2024 Posted December 11, 2024 Perhaps a silly question but where are you exporting to? When external like nas or cloud it may go in to sleep mode during the exporting. It may also be insufficient space on the internal hdd/ssd? Quote .
walt.farrell Posted December 11, 2024 Posted December 11, 2024 7 minutes ago, anto said: I have the files on my computer. Are they on a local disk, and is the folder (or folders) entirely local or are they managed by a cloud service (Dropbox, OneDrive, etc.)? Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2, 16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 18.3.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sequoia 15.0.1
anto Posted December 11, 2024 Author Posted December 11, 2024 2 minutes ago, Return said: Perhaps a silly question but where are you exporting to? When external like nas or cloud it may go in to sleep mode during the exporting. It may also be insufficient space on the internal hd/ssd? The same place as the original Publisher file. There is free space because I exported it in parts. And I'm still waiting, almost 2 hours have passed. Quote
anto Posted December 11, 2024 Author Posted December 11, 2024 It seems that at some point in time, Publisher does not interact with the disk at all. 2024-12-11 16-13-05.mp4 Quote
anto Posted December 11, 2024 Author Posted December 11, 2024 The export has just finished. It lasted 175 minutes. What if there is another error and I need to do the export again? Quote
Dejan Posted December 11, 2024 Posted December 11, 2024 You might have some 'special' layer effect somewhere on (at least) one object, you might try to find the exact page which is causing the issue and rasterize that effect. By looking the graph I would say that the problem is in the second half of the document. You can limit the number of pages in export options so you can narrow it down more quickly. Quote
anto Posted December 11, 2024 Author Posted December 11, 2024 2 hours ago, Dejan said: You might have some 'special' layer effect somewhere on (at least) one object, you might try to find the exact page which is causing the issue and rasterize that effect. By looking the graph I would say that the problem is in the second half of the document. You can limit the number of pages in export options so you can narrow it down more quickly. Part 2 contains more photos in tiff format. But there are not so many of them, 10-15. Does this mean that Publisher can't process them? Quote
walt.farrell Posted December 12, 2024 Posted December 12, 2024 18 hours ago, anto said: Part 2 contains more photos in tiff format. But there are not so many of them, 10-15. Does this mean that Publisher can't process them? We would need more information to be sure. I would suggest (if you're willing to do the research) that you perform a binary-search version of the export. If the second half of the file is slow when exporting, then you will take that half and break it into two equal-size pieces. Continue testing, and splitting the chunks, and often this will allow one to find a specific page that is causing a problem. Analysis of that page can often reveal the cause, and allow an immediate workaround while also providing information to the developers about an area with a problem. Callum and Oufti 2 Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2, 16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 18.3.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sequoia 15.0.1
anto Posted December 22, 2024 Author Posted December 22, 2024 I know that moderators and developers will not look at this thread. Staff request, could you add to the page export window the current page that Publisher is currently processing during the export. This will help to find errors faster and see the problem page at once. Quote
NotMyFault Posted December 22, 2024 Posted December 22, 2024 On 12/11/2024 at 3:18 PM, anto said: It seems that at some point in time, Publisher does not interact with the disk at all. 2024-12-11 16-13-05.mp4 480.58 kB · 0 downloads Seems you are on windows. Use tools like Ressource monitor, or sysinternal tools (process monitor, process explorer) to check which files are accessed when the exports seems to freeze. Quote Mac mini M1 A2348 | MBP M3 Windows 11 - AMD Ryzen 9 5900x - 32 GB RAM - Nvidia GTX 1080 LG34WK950U-W, calibrated to DCI-P3 with LG Calibration Studio / Spider 5 | Dell 27“ 4K iPad Air Gen 5 (2022) A2589 Special interest into procedural texture filter, edit alpha channel, RGB/16 and RGB/32 color formats, stacking, finding root causes for misbehaving files, finding creative solutions for unsolvable tasks, finding bugs in Apps. I use iPad screenshots and videos even in the Desktop section of the forum when I expect no relevant difference.
anto Posted December 22, 2024 Author Posted December 22, 2024 On 12/12/2024 at 2:52 PM, walt.farrell said: We would need more information to be sure. I would suggest (if you're willing to do the research) that you perform a binary-search version of the export. If the second half of the file is slow when exporting, then you will take that half and break it into two equal-size pieces. Continue testing, and splitting the chunks, and often this will allow one to find a specific page that is causing a problem. Analysis of that page can often reveal the cause, and allow an immediate workaround while also providing information to the developers about an area with a problem. I've just checked it another way. There are 168 pages in the book. I exported pages 1-84 in 8 minutes. Then pages 1-112 in 10 minutes. Then pages 1-129 in... The process up to the middle, i.e. up to page 64, took 7 minutes. Then the slider stopped and stood still for more than 10 minutes. So, the conclusion is that this has nothing to do with the photos on the page, since page 64 is not a problem, because in the first case it passed the export. Since I have exported 5 or 6 times in a row, it seems to me that the problem is that if Publisher is running for a long time, it loses its sense of reality and hangs or does whatever it wants. Quote
Staff Patrick Connor Posted December 22, 2024 Staff Posted December 22, 2024 44 minutes ago, anto said: I know that moderators and developers will not look at this thread. @Patrick Connor Could you ..... DO 👏 NOT👏 @ 👏 STAFF👏 INTO👏 THREADS👏 THEY 👏 ARE👏 NOT👏 PARTICIPATING👏 IN (and no this doesn't count) Staff look at every thread in this forum If you have a suggestion then we have provided a suggestion forum Quote Patrick Connor Serif Europe Ltd Latest V2 releases on each platform Help make our apps better by joining our beta program! "There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man. True nobility lies in being superior to your previous self." W. L. Sheldon
anto Posted December 22, 2024 Author Posted December 22, 2024 18 minutes ago, Patrick Connor said: Staff look at every thread in this forum And why doesn't it respond? Quote
anto Posted December 22, 2024 Author Posted December 22, 2024 I wrote the problem a week and a half ago. And no response from the staff. Why? Quote
anto Posted December 22, 2024 Author Posted December 22, 2024 Publisher 2.6 tried to exported pages 1-168 but it stopped halfway through, and the CPU utilization dropped to 20%. Publisher did half of the exports in 7 minutes, i.e. 84 pages. 51 minutes ago, NotMyFault said: sysinternal tools (process monitor, process explorer) where i can find this? Quote
NotMyFault Posted December 22, 2024 Posted December 22, 2024 35 minutes ago, anto said: Publisher 2.6 tried to exported pages 1-168 but it stopped halfway through, and the CPU utilization dropped to 20%. Publisher did half of the exports in 7 minutes, i.e. 84 pages. where i can find this? https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/downloads/ https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/downloads/procmon https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/downloads/process-explorer Please only download directly from microsoft. web search lists many fake websites. . Quote Mac mini M1 A2348 | MBP M3 Windows 11 - AMD Ryzen 9 5900x - 32 GB RAM - Nvidia GTX 1080 LG34WK950U-W, calibrated to DCI-P3 with LG Calibration Studio / Spider 5 | Dell 27“ 4K iPad Air Gen 5 (2022) A2589 Special interest into procedural texture filter, edit alpha channel, RGB/16 and RGB/32 color formats, stacking, finding root causes for misbehaving files, finding creative solutions for unsolvable tasks, finding bugs in Apps. I use iPad screenshots and videos even in the Desktop section of the forum when I expect no relevant difference.
anto Posted December 22, 2024 Author Posted December 22, 2024 A few more observations. Neither 2.5.7 nor 2.6 wanted to export as a single PDF file. Then in the settings I changed the RAM usage to 50GB (30GB by default), and the actual available RAM memory on my computer is 40GB. Version 2.6 exported all the pages in 16 minutes. The system monitor showed the memory usage as 33-34GB. So, the conclusion is that Publisher does not know how to use the computer's RAM. Question to the developers: Why can I change RAM to 65GB in the RAM settings when my computer doesn't have that much memory? Maybe there should be a certain correspondence between the slider and the real memory of the computer? Or am I missing something? Quote
anto Posted December 22, 2024 Author Posted December 22, 2024 Another problem is that even Publisher can't open a file it has just created. Quote
Hangman Posted December 22, 2024 Posted December 22, 2024 Hi @anto, Are you willing to upload your Publisher file and associated Photos so we can run some tests, if not publicly perhaps privately via a download link? I'd be happy to run some tests if you want to provide a link but if that's not an option I completely understand. Without being able to test the file it's difficult to provide constructive feedback... Quote Affinity Designer 2.6.0 | Affinity Photo 2.6.0 | Affinity Publisher 2.6.0 MacBook Pro M3 Max, 36 GB Unified Memory, macOS Sonoma 14.6.1, Magic Mouse HP ENVY x360, 8 GB RAM, AMD Ryzen 5 2500U, Windows 10 Home, Logitech Mouse
anto Posted December 22, 2024 Author Posted December 22, 2024 7 minutes ago, Hangman said: Hi @anto, Are you willing to upload your Publisher file and associated Photos so we can run some tests, if not publicly perhaps privately via a download link? I'd be happy to run some tests if you want to provide a link but if that's not an option I completely understand. Without being able to test the file it's difficult to provide constructive feedback... I cannot. Quote
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