Windows file manager: Warning do you want to copy Affinity Photo file without properties.

[Affinity Rat]

While copying Affinity files in Windows file manager it warns about loss of properties if you proceed. What exactly is missing?, metadata like tags anything related to links in images etc.

It appears that Windows file manager copy results in loss of tags, is there anyway to copy the file and retain tags?

Sure cant batch edit and save to different location, but hoping an easier way.

[Brian_J]

Are you referring to tags applied to the file in Windows File Explorer? If so, are you copying the file to a USB flash drive? The notification could be the result of copying a file to a USB flash drive that’s formatted as Fat32 or ExFat rather than NTFS.

[Affinity Rat]

Windows file manager doesnt have the ability to set Afphoto file tag attributes.

[mopperle]

I never got such a message when copying aphoto files. Can you explain in detail what you are doing and provide screenshots.

[Affinity Rat]

Ok, but do you tag your photos in APho

[NotMyFault]

NTFS is able to store alternate data streams (ADS, meaning multiple files) inside a single file. This is used or was used when you downloaded files by internet explorer, those files where marked as „downloaded from internet“.  Whenever you copied such a file to any other file systems, those alternate data streams get lost, and windows warns.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NTFS

A small ADS named Zone.Identifier is added by Internet Explorer and by most browsers to mark files downloaded from external sites as possibly unsafe to run; the local shell would then require user confirmation before opening them.^[64]When the user indicates that they no longer want this confirmation dialog, this ADS is deleted. This functionality is also known as "Mark of the Web".^[65][66] Without deep modifications to the source code, all Chromium (e.g. Google Chrome) and Firefox-based web browsers also write the Zone.Identifier stream to downloaded files. As of Windows 10, the contents of the Zone.Identiferstream are structured like an INI file (i.e. a key-value store) that includes the keys HostIpAddress, HostUrl, and ReferrerUrl. To some extent, these are implementation-defined fields, but they typically contain the domain name and exact URL of the original online download location, potentially offering a deeply esoteric method of tracking browsing history with concomitant privacy risks.^[67] If the downloaded file is executable (e.g. an installer), the Zone ADS can be used for reflection, enabling the program to identify where it was downloaded from, which may occasionally be used for telemetry and/or security purposes, whereby a program can attempt to verify that it was downloaded from an official source (assuming the stream has not been removed or spoofed) and can transmit the information back over the internet (an example of this in action is BiglyBT's installer).

[mopperle]

OK, seems to be hard to answers someones questions

But to answer your quesion:

• No sure what you mean by "tag" (thats why I asked), but here what I did:
• opened a RAW file
• entered some metadata (description, Keywords)
• developed it and saved it
• copied the file .afphoto to another folder renamed it there
• Opened this renamed .afphoto file and the entered metadata are, as expected, still in place
• exported it as jpeg and metadata are, as expected, still in place, copied it.......

Now please give me also a detailed description of what you are doing.

[NotMyFault]

The afphoto file was most likely downloaded by a browser to a drive which uses ntfs. It is not required to add tags.

tags can be added by windows file explorer, e.g. star rating. When you activate the „details“ view you can choose additional columns to be displayed.

[mopperle]

8 minutes ago, NotMyFault said:

When you activate the „details“ view you can choose additional columns to be displayed.

How? I see e.g. rating etc. only for "standard" picture formats like jpg and png and can change the rating. This is not possible for other formats like pdf etc. which offer only a subset of metedata based on xpm/IPTC standard.

[NotMyFault]

You can add columns for any attribute, of course it depends on what attributes can be retrieved from the actual files if anything will be displayed.

in a folder with mixed content like video and images you can show bit rate, only videos will show data but the column is shown for images (empty), too 

 

 

[mopperle]

ok, misunderstood you, was thinking about the properties window, not the Explorer itself, as I use another filemanager

[Affinity Rat]

@NotMyFault thanks for info, will consider how that applys to my situation.

@mopperle I forgot, they are keywords not referred to as tags. What you did I think answered my question, but will confirm. I dont know if the files in question came from internet or not but I do have internet based file backup, but it is certainly possible.

Regards to both of you in this matter.

Windows seem to refer to the attribute as tags, when I export an APho file with keywords to jpg in APho, those keywords appear as tags  in jpg metadata within file explorer, hence the confusion.

 

[Affinity Rat]

I still havent definitely resolved this issue, but I see hidden ._ files which are apparently created when ios accesses a file on fat, ntf etc so is that the issue?

https://kb.synology.com/vi-vn/DSM/tutorial/Why_are_dot_underscore_files_created