Table of Content formatting

[stevepc]

I have a two table of Contents issues that I am struggling to resolve.

The first is that I have a TOC style (TOC 1 in attached image ‘Paragraph Styles’) that is not needed. I managed to delete other unwanted TOC styles via an over-elaborate method creating a new table of contents, selecting the unwanted TOC style and then deleting it. But despite doing the same thing, I cannot remove this TOC 1 style.

1.      How do I delete the unwanted TOC 1 style?

 

The second and more serious issue, is that despite importing a working Table of contents from another Publisher 2 document (my Volume II) using ‘Add a page from File’, in the target doc (my Volume III that uses identical paragraph styles to Volume II) the table of contents uses all caps (see ‘Correct style of table of contents’ image and ‘Incorrect style of table of contents’ image).

2.      How do I find where the all caps setting that is controlling this?

3.      Can I remove it?

 

I have also attached a Publisher 2 document (‘Vol III extract’) with the issue.

Grateful for any help I can get.

Vol III extract.afpub

[walt.farrell]

It may be something font-related, in which case it would help if you created a Package rather than just providing the .afpub file.

You can do that by creating an empty directory, and using File > Save As Package, and pointing to that directory. This will put a .afpackage file, an Images directory, and a Fonts directory into the directory you created. You can then Zip that directory and provide it, so we can have a temporary copy of the fonts to work with. (I assume they are not commercial fonts, of course. If they are, you should probably only share them with Serif for debugging, not publicly here in the forum.)

Without that, I can only suggest that you put the cursor in one of the lines that is not correctly formatted, and then look at the details of its Text Style.

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For your question about deleting the TOC 1 text style: If you have a TOC named TOC 1 in your document you probably cannot get rid of it. Without knowing which TOCs your document contains, and how you've named their styles via the TOC panel I can't say much more.

[stevepc]

Thanks Walt

I have attached a package.There are some restricted fonts but they are readly available for personal use.

My problem with looking at the text style is that I cannot see anything that makes it full caps. Indeed, in the other volumes the styles work fine.

wrt to TOC1, I do not have a TOC that uses it. However, even if I temporarily create one that does, deleting it doesn't remove it.

 

[MikeTO]

I don't know why you can't delete a TOC Style named TOC 1, but you will be able to delete it if you rename it to something else. This is a minor bug that I don't think has been previously reported.

All caps: First, edit your Main TOC: Entry style to change Typography > Capitals > All Petite Caps = Default or No Change. Turning this off won't fix the problem but it's a problem.

The problem is a known bug with updating a TOC inheriting an attribute applied elsewhere. You have to specifically define attributes or else TOC text will inherit that attribute. You have All Alternates > Alternate 2 applied to your TOC. To fix this, edit all three of your TOC paragraph styles and change Typography > All Alternates to 0. Then update your TOC.

Cheers

[MikeTO]

I believe the TOC update bug is logged as AF-1003 and AF-1233

[stevepc]

Thanks Mike. That's all sorted now.

 

[stevepc]

On 11/7/2024 at 4:50 PM, MikeTO said:

The problem is a known bug with updating a TOC inheriting an attribute applied elsewhere. You have to specifically define attributes or else TOC text will inherit that attribute. You have All Alternates > Alternate 2 applied to your TOC. To fix this, edit all three of your TOC paragraph styles and change Typography > All Alternates to 0. Then update your TOC

Hi Mike

That issue was resolved by doing just as you suggested. However, with v2.5.6 the problem has returned despite me setting Alternatives to 0.

Any suggestions?

Thanks

Steve

[MikeTO]

55 minutes ago, stevepc said:

That issue was resolved by doing just as you suggested. However, with v2.5.6 the problem has returned despite me setting Alternatives to 0.

Any suggestions?

This is a fiddly bug and sometimes it's baffling why it's doing this which is why I still keep a small blank text frame on my TOC page so that I can clear the defaults before updating the TOC. Sorry, it's the best I can suggest.

[stevepc]

12 minutes ago, MikeTO said:

so that I can clear the defaults before updating the TOC

Sorry, I am probably being a bit slow, but I don'tknow what you mean by 'clear the defaults'.

[MikeTO]

10 hours ago, stevepc said:

Sorry, I am probably being a bit slow, but I don'tknow what you mean by 'clear the defaults'.

If I update my TOC and it turns bold, I choose Undo, click in my empty frame, toggle Bold off, and then update the TOC again. In your case, turn off the alternates using that frame if that's what is happening to your TOC.

[stevepc]

Oh, I see. That works. Thanks.

I would never have worked that out for myself.

[MikeTO]

This thread should be tagged with af-1233 and 1003

[stevepc]

Is that something I should do and, if so, how do I do that?

[MikeTO]

4 hours ago, stevepc said:

Is that something I should do and, if so, how do I do that?

No, that was for Serif, I was just pointing out which known bugs this is associated with. They tag threads with issue tracking numbers which allows searching for all the threads tagged with the same issue, and then when the issues are fixed, the Affinity info bot will automatically posted a fixed notice to the thread and you'll get a notification that it's fixed.