WREN Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 It would be great to have a color wheel similar to this: I'd even be happy if we could have TWO color pallets viewable in the workspace, One being sliders and the other being a wheel. I would LOVE an option similar to something like this: These would give a great amount of control with color that would make color selection with painting a lot smoother. Changes: 1. Red being at the top (0 degrees) 2. Color schemes: Complimentary, Triadic, split complimentary, etc. 3. Tint - 100% tint is always represented as the color, where in painting if you've tinted your colors you're ADDING white, so the slider is reversed from the default. 4. Blending - foreground and background colors go on either end of the slider. 5. Color temperature (lock) & Tone (lock)- these are lifted from Anastasy's Magic Picker, they're really powerful features I hope this was somewhat intelligible and that others might find these requests useful for their process. Thank you very much for taking our requests seriously and listening to the community, you guys and gals rock! BobsDaubs, paolo.limoncelli, MattP and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petar Petrenko Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 You forgot opacity. LilleG 1 Quote All the latest releases of Designer, Photo and Publisher (retail and beta) on MacOS and Windows. 15” Dell Inspiron 7559 i7 ● Windows 10 x64 Pro ● Intel Core i7-6700HQ (3.50 GHz, 6M) ● 16 GB Dual Channel DDR3L 1600 MHz (8GBx2) ● NVIDIA GeForce GTX 960M 4 GB GDDR5 ● 500 GB SSD + 1 TB HDD ● UHD (3840 x 2160) Truelife LED - Backlit Touch Display 32” LG 32UN650-W display ● 3840 x 2160 UHD, IPS, HDR10 ● Color Gamut: DCI-P3 95%, Color Calibrated ● 2 x HDMI, 1 x DisplayPort 13.3” MacBook Pro (2017) ● Ventura 13.6 ● Intel Core i7 (3.50 GHz Dual Core) ● 16 GB 2133 MHz LPDDR3 ● Intel Iris Plus Graphics 650 1536 MB ● 500 GB SSD ● Retina Display (3360 x 2100) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paolo.limoncelli Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 I raise with gamut masking... :) Peregrin, A_B_C and BobsDaubs 3 Quote The white dog, making tools for artists, illustrators and doodlers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alfred Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 May I ask what the gamut setting in your example does apart from limiting the colours one can select? How is that helping with choosing colours? If your output intent is CMYK, it makes sense to be prevented from choosing an RGB or HSL bright green that you won't be able to reproduce with process colours. :) Quote Alfred Affinity Designer/Photo/Publisher 2 for Windows • Windows 10 Home/Pro Affinity Designer/Photo/Publisher 2 for iPad • iPadOS 17.4.1 (iPad 7th gen) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WREN Posted July 9, 2016 Author Share Posted July 9, 2016 You forgot opacity. I intentionally left it off. I felt that if one wanted variable opacity in paint that blend modes would suffice or they could just use the layer opacity setting. I think that would be more useful than setting it per color (for painting explicitly). Petar Petrenko 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WREN Posted July 9, 2016 Author Share Posted July 9, 2016 I raise with gamut masking... :) Yes! BobsDaubs 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paolo.limoncelli Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 Munsell Quote The white dog, making tools for artists, illustrators and doodlers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peregrin Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 I like this idea. It would make painting a whole lot easier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 I didn't know what Munsell/colour space thing was; so I found these...good ol' Bing! HTH Quote MacBook pro, 2.26 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo, 4 GB 1067 MHz DDR3, NVIDIA GeForce 9400M 256 MB, OS X 10.11.6 http://www.pinterest.com/peter2111 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paolo.limoncelli Posted July 13, 2016 Share Posted July 13, 2016 Yes, it is a colour system still used by painter Quote The white dog, making tools for artists, illustrators and doodlers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LilleG Posted July 13, 2016 Share Posted July 13, 2016 I intentionally left it off. I felt that if one wanted variable opacity in paint that blend modes would suffice or they could just use the layer opacity setting. I think that would be more useful than setting it per color (for painting explicitly). If I am painting in Photo, sometimes I adjust Opacity for one stroke, or vary it for several. If we're advocating for more options, let's not start by reducing those we already have. Alfred 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WREN Posted July 13, 2016 Author Share Posted July 13, 2016 If I am painting in Photo, sometimes I adjust Opacity for one stroke, or vary it for several. If we're advocating for more options, let's not start by reducing those we already have. My mockup was mainly used as a way of quickly illustrating an idea that would take paragraphs to explain- any of my choices shouldn't be taken as gospel and need refinement. (for instance: the "blend" idea can't work the way I described it with the foreground and background color). I completely agree, I don't want functionality to be removed where it has value. I have complete faith in the design team behind Affinity to make refinements that maintain the integrity of their app as well as build a great user experience. My suggestion was simply aimed at generating a conversation around color control and selection. Whatever the team decides to do/not do with it I know will be for the best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LilleG Posted July 13, 2016 Share Posted July 13, 2016 You certainly seem to have gotten one started. :) I'd love to see some of the suggestions implemented but I suspect the color wheel is probably not close to the top of their list right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Stephen_H Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 I played with an updated color palette a while back as well. This was my contribution... just combine the wheel, the sliders and the swatches into one palette. Petar Petrenko, Aammppaa and duderonomy 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petar Petrenko Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 And all colors -- live colors. I didn't know, just heard recently, QuarkXPress has ONLY live colors since beggining!!! Quote All the latest releases of Designer, Photo and Publisher (retail and beta) on MacOS and Windows. 15” Dell Inspiron 7559 i7 ● Windows 10 x64 Pro ● Intel Core i7-6700HQ (3.50 GHz, 6M) ● 16 GB Dual Channel DDR3L 1600 MHz (8GBx2) ● NVIDIA GeForce GTX 960M 4 GB GDDR5 ● 500 GB SSD + 1 TB HDD ● UHD (3840 x 2160) Truelife LED - Backlit Touch Display 32” LG 32UN650-W display ● 3840 x 2160 UHD, IPS, HDR10 ● Color Gamut: DCI-P3 95%, Color Calibrated ● 2 x HDMI, 1 x DisplayPort 13.3” MacBook Pro (2017) ● Ventura 13.6 ● Intel Core i7 (3.50 GHz Dual Core) ● 16 GB 2133 MHz LPDDR3 ● Intel Iris Plus Graphics 650 1536 MB ● 500 GB SSD ● Retina Display (3360 x 2100) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen_H Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 What are live colours? Is it like illustrator’s global swatches? Change a swatch and all instances are updated? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petar Petrenko Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 10 hours ago, Stephen_H said: What are live colours? Is it like illustrator’s global swatches? Change a swatch and all instances are updated? Yes, that is it. Quote All the latest releases of Designer, Photo and Publisher (retail and beta) on MacOS and Windows. 15” Dell Inspiron 7559 i7 ● Windows 10 x64 Pro ● Intel Core i7-6700HQ (3.50 GHz, 6M) ● 16 GB Dual Channel DDR3L 1600 MHz (8GBx2) ● NVIDIA GeForce GTX 960M 4 GB GDDR5 ● 500 GB SSD + 1 TB HDD ● UHD (3840 x 2160) Truelife LED - Backlit Touch Display 32” LG 32UN650-W display ● 3840 x 2160 UHD, IPS, HDR10 ● Color Gamut: DCI-P3 95%, Color Calibrated ● 2 x HDMI, 1 x DisplayPort 13.3” MacBook Pro (2017) ● Ventura 13.6 ● Intel Core i7 (3.50 GHz Dual Core) ● 16 GB 2133 MHz LPDDR3 ● Intel Iris Plus Graphics 650 1536 MB ● 500 GB SSD ● Retina Display (3360 x 2100) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen_H Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 Ah, yes because document layout has color consistency as a core principle. I cut my teeth on newspaper and magazine layout so I naturally believe all swatches should be live/global and essential to professional layout & design (though not important for illustration). Petar Petrenko 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petar Petrenko Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 7 minutes ago, Stephen_H said: Ah, yes because document layout has color consistency as a core principle. I cut my teeth on newspaper and magazine layout so I naturally believe all swatches should be live/global and essential to professional layout & design (though not important for illustration). Yes, they MUST be ONLY global. Having global and static is just unnecessary and confusing. They ARE important everywhere, even more for illustration. Wosven 1 Quote All the latest releases of Designer, Photo and Publisher (retail and beta) on MacOS and Windows. 15” Dell Inspiron 7559 i7 ● Windows 10 x64 Pro ● Intel Core i7-6700HQ (3.50 GHz, 6M) ● 16 GB Dual Channel DDR3L 1600 MHz (8GBx2) ● NVIDIA GeForce GTX 960M 4 GB GDDR5 ● 500 GB SSD + 1 TB HDD ● UHD (3840 x 2160) Truelife LED - Backlit Touch Display 32” LG 32UN650-W display ● 3840 x 2160 UHD, IPS, HDR10 ● Color Gamut: DCI-P3 95%, Color Calibrated ● 2 x HDMI, 1 x DisplayPort 13.3” MacBook Pro (2017) ● Ventura 13.6 ● Intel Core i7 (3.50 GHz Dual Core) ● 16 GB 2133 MHz LPDDR3 ● Intel Iris Plus Graphics 650 1536 MB ● 500 GB SSD ● Retina Display (3360 x 2100) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen_H Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 18 minutes ago, Petar Petrenko said: Yes, they MUST be ONLY global. Having global and static is just unnecessary and confusing. They ARE important everywhere, even more for illustration. 100% agree. I really can't think of any reason to have swatches if they aren't live. Petar Petrenko 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dominik Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 22 hours ago, Stephen_H said: Change a swatch and all instances are updated? Hi @Stephen_H, I am asking out of curiousity. What is the difference between the 'global' colors you and @Petar Petrenko are talking about and the 'global colours' in Affinity Designer? Thanks d. Quote Affinity Designer 1 & 2 | Affinity Photo 1 & 2 | Affinity Publisher 1 & 2 Affinity Designer 2 for iPad | Affinity Photo 2 for iPad | Affinity Publisher 2 for iPad Windows 11 64-bit - Core i7 - 16GB - Intel HD Graphics 4600 & NVIDIA GeForce GTX 960M iPad pro 9.7" + Apple Pencil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen_H Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 11 minutes ago, dominik said: Hi @Stephen_H, I am asking out of curiousity. What is the difference between the 'global' colors you and @Petar Petrenko are talking about and the 'global colours' in Affinity Designer? Thanks d. No difference. AD's global colors act like all other applications' global colors. Peter was just surprised to discover that Quark Xpress has had them all along. Maybe he thought they were introduced as a new feature or was surprised that it doesn't have different types of swatches? (I can't really speak for him here, but that was the message I got from his post) For me, Quark Xpress 3.0 was the very first graphics application I ever learnt and it ONLY supports global swatches. Quark's global swatches is so ingrained in me that I find all other "regular" swatches unintuitive, frustrating and very risky to use. As a side note... InDesign also only supports global swatches. I guess this speaks volumes about color management in professional layout applications and I expect this to be the default swatch usage in the soon-to-be-released Affinity Publisher as well. (Non-global swatches in Publisher will be a fail of epic proportions.) Petar Petrenko 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dominik Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 9 minutes ago, Stephen_H said: No difference. AD's global colors act like all other applications' global colors. Hi @Stephen_H, thank you for clearing this. I was under the impression I had missed something All the best, d. Quote Affinity Designer 1 & 2 | Affinity Photo 1 & 2 | Affinity Publisher 1 & 2 Affinity Designer 2 for iPad | Affinity Photo 2 for iPad | Affinity Publisher 2 for iPad Windows 11 64-bit - Core i7 - 16GB - Intel HD Graphics 4600 & NVIDIA GeForce GTX 960M iPad pro 9.7" + Apple Pencil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petar Petrenko Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 @Stephen_H you understood me 100%. Quote All the latest releases of Designer, Photo and Publisher (retail and beta) on MacOS and Windows. 15” Dell Inspiron 7559 i7 ● Windows 10 x64 Pro ● Intel Core i7-6700HQ (3.50 GHz, 6M) ● 16 GB Dual Channel DDR3L 1600 MHz (8GBx2) ● NVIDIA GeForce GTX 960M 4 GB GDDR5 ● 500 GB SSD + 1 TB HDD ● UHD (3840 x 2160) Truelife LED - Backlit Touch Display 32” LG 32UN650-W display ● 3840 x 2160 UHD, IPS, HDR10 ● Color Gamut: DCI-P3 95%, Color Calibrated ● 2 x HDMI, 1 x DisplayPort 13.3” MacBook Pro (2017) ● Ventura 13.6 ● Intel Core i7 (3.50 GHz Dual Core) ● 16 GB 2133 MHz LPDDR3 ● Intel Iris Plus Graphics 650 1536 MB ● 500 GB SSD ● Retina Display (3360 x 2100) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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