Colours mess in Affinity

[Iztok]

When i create copy of global colour in rgb mode, copy was in CMYK mode, why I can' t create gradient global colour? I can't rename global colour with two clicks, must go in menu and rename it - slow. I can't delete colours in application palette, can't select anused colours. If I had colour create, cant cange it in global colour or I can't set from RGB to CMYK by juist control click menu. Colours are realy messy logic

 

[Iztok]

Why are not all colours as global colours and I can delete it or change to RGB on CMYK with control click menu, and select anused colours and delete it? Simpify logic of colours use.

[Iztok]

Want to create new gradient colour? How? I dont know who works with colours? Sorr, but colours system is realy so stupid

[Iztok]

How to add gradients to swatches as global colour?

[Iztok]

when double click on gradient colour in gradient palett pallete open and there is just colour not gradient anymore?

[Iztok]

Now when i select rechtangel I cant move it but there is no selection, when i select green gradient in gradient palette, they become yust ordinary colour, gradient is  gone, When i try to select two colurs and yust hit delete I can't select with shift more than 1 colour and can't simpy delete one or two colours by delete keyboard command.

Sistem how to work with colours is realy nonintutive, complicated and strange behaviorus, you definitly need 2.6 update and work with colours simplify and logical

[walt.farrell]

3 hours ago, Iztok said:

How to add gradients to swatches as global colour?

I don't know if it's possible, but if it is you would have to add it to a Document palette, not an Application palette like you showed in your screenshot.

[Iztok]

Gradient could not be in document palette, and taht is also strange, but gradient in gradient palette became basic collors if you double click on it. If I create document pallete I would like to have colours and gradients and pantone, all colours which I use in one palette. Then I have an option to export all colours I use in one Export and import, in would like to select as many colours i want with Shift and delete it or group it and than if I want copy some of tem in new document by copy paste option, this will be user firendly, now is realy mess.

[walt.farrell]

1 hour ago, Iztok said:

Gradient could not be in document palette,

Yes, it can:

1 hour ago, Iztok said:

but gradient in gradient palette became basic collors if you double click on it.

Correct. Edit Fill does not support editing swatches based on gradients.

Nor can they be Global.

That is just how things work in the Affinity apps.

If you want to see changes, you need to post requests in the Feedback forum, not Questions.

[Iztok]

I now, but why not I want to have colours of my document in one place not three or four, and how grradient became just solid colour with click on it. I tell you if you compare colours in Affinity and InDesign, the simpicity of colours is far better in on InDesign and that should not be the case, in Affinity is compcitate and not good and simple for user and Affinity is made for users.

[walt.farrell]

55 minutes ago, Iztok said:

but why not

Why not? Because that's not the way they programmed it.

It works the way it does. It's fine for you to not like it. And it's fine for you to request that it be changed (in the Feedback forum).

But you're unlikely to get any answer to "why" other than "that's what we (Serif) decided to do."

 

[Iztok]

Colour mess -look closely when I change colour what happened in object what happened in colour palette and what happened with colour right of colour picker - doesnt change at all, colour in palette change, colour in object also doesnt change.

[Iztok]

Colour sample next to colour picker doesn't react on changing colour

[Iztok]

now I made global colour from ordinary colour, and with that I can change colour in object direct. so why this option work only with global colour and not with all colours or  every colour made as global colour and solve the problem. Normal and global colour only made complicate things

[walt.farrell]

Asking "why" here does no good, @Iztok, except possibly to make you feel good for having expressed your feelings.

You will not get an answer that satisfies you, and it will not result in any changes to the application. If you want changes, you need to post in the Feedback forum, and you need to look at the Guidelines there for how to post so you make good posts that the developers will be able to understand.

If you don't understand how something is working, we can explain what it is doing and confirm whether it seems to be working as designed or not, but for that it would be better if you provided full screenshots, and sample Affinity documents. 

If you think there is a bug (not simply "the application does not work like you would like it to" as most of this topic seems to be about) then please post in the Bugs forum, but in that case you will also need to provide complete application screenshots (not snippets like you've posted here) and sample files so we (and Serif) can see all the details of what you've done.

[Iztok]

OK

[lacerto]

Obsolete.

[hunter_sk]

On 9/7/2024 at 5:36 PM, lacerto said:

The way color palettes work in Affinity apps is at best confusing (disregarding if confusing operation is actually "designed" or "programmed", at all, or a result of lack of design, a "not-yet-programmed" functionality). I am referring to way gradient swatches operate. It is possible to use global swatches as stops in a gradient, and then have that gradient change whenever the global swatches involved are modified, to reflect new color definitions also taking effect in the gradients that have been defined this way. However, creating a gradient swatch and assigning an object with the created gradient swatch, does not retain the global status of the stop colors, even if the global swatch assignments still show if one selects the stops of that gradient. As the gradients cannot be given a global status, this is in a way "logical" behavior, but then the stops of the gradient should not have their global swatch assignment shown as active, either.

As for "global" and "non-global" status of swatches, the same behavior exists also in Adobe Illustrator, and the functional distinction can indeed be useful at times. In InDesign there is no such distinction (and basically no similar use for it, either). UPDATE: But to continue comparison: in Illustrator, a gradient swatch cannot be "global", either, but gradient swatch assignments are retained (get highlighted in the Swatches panel if an object does have one), and the global stop color assignments, too, so if the involved global color swatches are subsequently modified, this is reflected in objects with the assigned gradient, as well.

I have come to parital solution to use global colors in gradients to copy a gradient defined with global colors with Style Picker Tool. That way the gradient is copied with the links to global colors.