Rolando Daniel Posted August 20, 2024 Posted August 20, 2024 Hello. I have an issue... I started using a font with contextual alternatives, specifically the "Amorie Modella" font. In both Designer and Publisher, it shows an error in the distribution of glyphs in a text frame when the text frame is smaller in width (as you can see in picture). I tested it with other softwares, such as Clip Studio Paint and Microsoft Word, and they worked fine with the font. Both of these softwares had the use of contextual alternatives enabled. Microsoft Word works well with hyphens with this font. What can I do? Quote
walt.farrell Posted August 20, 2024 Posted August 20, 2024 Welcome to the Affinity forums. First, Designer doesn't implement automatic hyphenation at all. So, as I think the question is about hyphenation, I'll focus on Publisher. So, in Publisher: Is your text really Latin, or is it Filler Text? If you put the text cursor in one of those words, and check the Character panel, Language section, what Spelling language is specified? In the same place, what Hyphenation language is specified? In the Paragraph panel, is Use Automatic Hyphenation enabled? If you have the Language set to Latin for spelling and hyphenation (or automatic for hyphenation), I don't recall if the Affinity applications on Windows have a Latin hyphenation dictionary. I can check that later, or another user may know. You've indicated the problem is with fonts that have Contextual Alternates. If you select all the text, and disable Contextual Alternates in the Typography settings (Character panel), does the problem go away? (That is, does hyphenation work normally in that case?) I have a vague memory of another discussion of hyphenation and contextual alternates, but I can't find the discussion right now. Sorry. Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2, 16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 18.5, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sequoia 15.5
kenmcd Posted August 20, 2024 Posted August 20, 2024 15 hours ago, Rolando Daniiel said: What can I do? Not much. This is a bug in how Affinity handles OpenType substitutions. The Amorie Modella font has substitutions for the space characters, and individual characters. In Affinity this breaks the line-breaking and the hyphenation. Which is a bug. This font works correctly in LibreOffice (with the Harfbuzz text shaper). Justification works as expected. Hyphenation works as expected. Which is similar to your results in Word (with the DirectWrite text shaper). So until Affinity fixes this you will not be able to use all the features of this font. Rolando Daniel and walt.farrell 2 Quote
Rolando Daniel Posted August 21, 2024 Author Posted August 21, 2024 13 hours ago, walt.farrell said: First, Designer doesn't implement automatic hyphenation at all. So, as I think the question is about hyphenation, I'll focus on Publisher. It's not just about hyphenation. It's mainly about OpenType substitution. I mentioned it to complement. 13 hours ago, walt.farrell said: Is your text really Latin, or is it Filler Text? In the pic it was just an example. 13 hours ago, walt.farrell said: You've indicated the problem is with fonts that have Contextual Alternates. If you select all the text, and disable Contextual Alternates in the Typography settings (Character panel), does the problem go away? Yes, when I disabled it, it works fine. But it is not the idea. 13 hours ago, walt.farrell said: Sorry No problem. Thank you for your reply. 6 hours ago, kenmcd said: Not much. This is a bug in how Affinity handles OpenType substitutions. Oh. What a pity. 6 hours ago, kenmcd said: So until Affinity fixes this you will not be able to use all the features of this font. Really. What a pity. Thank you all for your reply. I hope that the team of Affinity take it into consideration and resolve it. kenmcd and walt.farrell 2 Quote
walt.farrell Posted August 21, 2024 Posted August 21, 2024 9 hours ago, Rolando Daniiel said: I hope that the team of Affinity take it into consideration and resolve it. We'll see what they say when they process this report. Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2, 16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 18.5, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sequoia 15.5
kenmcd Posted August 21, 2024 Posted August 21, 2024 2 hours ago, walt.farrell said: We'll see what they say when they process this report. IIRC there has been no response the previous 4-5 times this issue has come up. I can make a summary of all those if someone wants to actually do something about it. But I suspect the fix is not easy so it is being ignored. Quote
Staff DWright Posted September 6, 2024 Staff Posted September 6, 2024 Hi @Rolando Daniel, Is it possible for you to send me a copy of this font using the following Dropbox link to help me log this issue with our developers https://www.dropbox.com/request/JE4smYyysutWXnNIJOhp Quote
Rolando Daniel Posted September 7, 2024 Author Posted September 7, 2024 10 hours ago, DWright said: Hi @Rolando Daniel, Is it possible for you to send me a copy of this font using the following Dropbox link to help me log this issue with our developers https://www.dropbox.com/request/JE4smYyysutWXnNIJOhp Ok. There it goes. Quote
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