KeyboardMap Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 The issue was: I'd colour an object an RGB value like 50,120,50 then when using Window's colour picker, it says that the colour being displayed is 76,119,75. Managed to half fix this by changing the file's colour profile to the one that my main monitor uses, however now the colours look wrong on my second monitor. My main monitor is using a pre-calibrated colour profile from rtings.com with the exact same monitor, how can I fix this issue? If I export the image and open in a different program, it appears differently, if I change the color profile of the document to the one that's the same as my non-correct monitor(?) then it looks right on that one, but wrong on the other monitor; but setting it the same as my wrong monitor's colour profile gives me a colour more accurate to the image exported and opened in a different program Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catshill Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 It’s a monitor display rather than a software issue. I would concentrate on matching the colour profile of the two monitors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeyboardMap Posted August 18 Author Share Posted August 18 How would you roughly do that? Any other app displays properly and both monitors are quite different Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotMyFault Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 6 hours ago, KeyboardMap said: Managed to half fix this by changing the file's colour profile to the one that my main monitor uses Never do that. This causes even more problems. always use regular profiles for documents, never display profiles for documents. and do not trust windows color picker. can you live with sRGB profile for documents and displays? Then use it for all for the sake of simplicity. But the display settings must be matching to what is used in windows for that profile, many displays can be set to different profiles or manual settings. Quote Mac mini M1 A2348 | Windows 10 - AMD Ryzen 9 5900x - 32 GB RAM - Nvidia GTX 1080 LG34WK950U-W, calibrated to DCI-P3 with LG Calibration Studio / Spider 5 iPad Air Gen 5 (2022) A2589 Special interest into procedural texture filter, edit alpha channel, RGB/16 and RGB/32 color formats, stacking, finding root causes for misbehaving files, finding creative solutions for unsolvable tasks, finding bugs in Apps. My posts focus on technical aspects and leave out most of social grease like „maybe“, „in my opinion“, „I might be wrong“ etc. just add copy/paste all these softeners from this signature to make reading more comfortable for you. Otherwise I’m a fine person which respects you and everyone and wants to be respected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeyboardMap Posted August 18 Author Share Posted August 18 I'm not sure how to change my monitor into sRGB, and I've never had issues with any other program; but since what I see in Affinity Designer isn't what I see when it's exported and used somewhere else, trying to get this fixed(?) It's not the default Windows color picker, that doesn't exist, it's one from Microsoft's PowerToys program- just what's the reason to not trust it? Besides, if I keep the document in sRGB it looks the same on both monitors IF I keep it in Affinity Designer, but it looks different the same when exported and opened elsewhere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotMyFault Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 See https://affinityspotlight.com/article/display-colour-management-in-the-affinity-apps/ Quote Mac mini M1 A2348 | Windows 10 - AMD Ryzen 9 5900x - 32 GB RAM - Nvidia GTX 1080 LG34WK950U-W, calibrated to DCI-P3 with LG Calibration Studio / Spider 5 iPad Air Gen 5 (2022) A2589 Special interest into procedural texture filter, edit alpha channel, RGB/16 and RGB/32 color formats, stacking, finding root causes for misbehaving files, finding creative solutions for unsolvable tasks, finding bugs in Apps. My posts focus on technical aspects and leave out most of social grease like „maybe“, „in my opinion“, „I might be wrong“ etc. just add copy/paste all these softeners from this signature to make reading more comfortable for you. Otherwise I’m a fine person which respects you and everyone and wants to be respected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotMyFault Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 Please provide exact display make and model screenshot of color profile settings in windows for display export settings used one example document showing the issue (afdesign format) Quote Mac mini M1 A2348 | Windows 10 - AMD Ryzen 9 5900x - 32 GB RAM - Nvidia GTX 1080 LG34WK950U-W, calibrated to DCI-P3 with LG Calibration Studio / Spider 5 iPad Air Gen 5 (2022) A2589 Special interest into procedural texture filter, edit alpha channel, RGB/16 and RGB/32 color formats, stacking, finding root causes for misbehaving files, finding creative solutions for unsolvable tasks, finding bugs in Apps. My posts focus on technical aspects and leave out most of social grease like „maybe“, „in my opinion“, „I might be wrong“ etc. just add copy/paste all these softeners from this signature to make reading more comfortable for you. Otherwise I’m a fine person which respects you and everyone and wants to be respected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeyboardMap Posted August 18 Author Share Posted August 18 LG 27GP850 - what's a display make? Switched color profile to one that came by default testfile.afdesign Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotMyFault Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 21 minutes ago, KeyboardMap said: it's one from Microsoft's PowerToys program- just what's the reason to not trust it? Many windows apps, including core apps delivered with OS, do not support color management and strictly assume sRGB (which was invented by Microsoft and others). They assume color value in document is in sRGB and is identical to color value send do display. Today this is more an exception, because almost all non-windows devices use Display P3 (Apple, Android etc) and all browsers are capable to handle and display color profiles mostly correctly. Only Windows lacks behind and is somehow stuck to sRGB by many Apps. The core Windows OS handles color profiles correctly. Quote Mac mini M1 A2348 | Windows 10 - AMD Ryzen 9 5900x - 32 GB RAM - Nvidia GTX 1080 LG34WK950U-W, calibrated to DCI-P3 with LG Calibration Studio / Spider 5 iPad Air Gen 5 (2022) A2589 Special interest into procedural texture filter, edit alpha channel, RGB/16 and RGB/32 color formats, stacking, finding root causes for misbehaving files, finding creative solutions for unsolvable tasks, finding bugs in Apps. My posts focus on technical aspects and leave out most of social grease like „maybe“, „in my opinion“, „I might be wrong“ etc. just add copy/paste all these softeners from this signature to make reading more comfortable for you. Otherwise I’m a fine person which respects you and everyone and wants to be respected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotMyFault Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 Just now, KeyboardMap said: LG 27GP850 - what's a display make? Switched color profile to one that came by default testfile.afdesign PNG files cause trouble as Affinity started to export with color profiles and specific gamma curves according to the industry standard , while older versions just exported the document values. This kind of breaks compatibility with older Apps (Affinity and others) which do not adhere strictly to the standards. Quote Mac mini M1 A2348 | Windows 10 - AMD Ryzen 9 5900x - 32 GB RAM - Nvidia GTX 1080 LG34WK950U-W, calibrated to DCI-P3 with LG Calibration Studio / Spider 5 iPad Air Gen 5 (2022) A2589 Special interest into procedural texture filter, edit alpha channel, RGB/16 and RGB/32 color formats, stacking, finding root causes for misbehaving files, finding creative solutions for unsolvable tasks, finding bugs in Apps. My posts focus on technical aspects and leave out most of social grease like „maybe“, „in my opinion“, „I might be wrong“ etc. just add copy/paste all these softeners from this signature to make reading more comfortable for you. Otherwise I’m a fine person which respects you and everyone and wants to be respected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeyboardMap Posted August 18 Author Share Posted August 18 Right then, how would I go about solving it? Exporting it with default settings for JPEGs doesn't change anything Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walt.farrell Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 39 minutes ago, NotMyFault said: PNG files cause trouble as Affinity started to export with color profiles and specific gamma curves according to the industry standard , while older versions just exported the document values. Isn't this only a problem when using RGB-32 and exporting to PNG, since 2.4 implemented 32-bit PNG support? NotMyFault 1 Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2, 16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 18.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sequoia 15.0.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotMyFault Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 5 minutes ago, KeyboardMap said: LG 27GP850 This is a gaming display, and not specifically intended for photo editing. the manual: https://www.lg.com/us/support/product/lg-27GP850-B.AEU The only suitable preset for image editing is probably sRGB. All others have gaming optimizations which may lead do strong deviations from document colors. You can use it, only be aware that other displays may render images slightly different. But this is not the cause for your issues. Quote Mac mini M1 A2348 | Windows 10 - AMD Ryzen 9 5900x - 32 GB RAM - Nvidia GTX 1080 LG34WK950U-W, calibrated to DCI-P3 with LG Calibration Studio / Spider 5 iPad Air Gen 5 (2022) A2589 Special interest into procedural texture filter, edit alpha channel, RGB/16 and RGB/32 color formats, stacking, finding root causes for misbehaving files, finding creative solutions for unsolvable tasks, finding bugs in Apps. My posts focus on technical aspects and leave out most of social grease like „maybe“, „in my opinion“, „I might be wrong“ etc. just add copy/paste all these softeners from this signature to make reading more comfortable for you. Otherwise I’m a fine person which respects you and everyone and wants to be respected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotMyFault Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 36 minutes ago, KeyboardMap said: Right then, how would I go about solving it? Exporting it with default settings for JPEGs doesn't change anything We still need one example document Quote Mac mini M1 A2348 | Windows 10 - AMD Ryzen 9 5900x - 32 GB RAM - Nvidia GTX 1080 LG34WK950U-W, calibrated to DCI-P3 with LG Calibration Studio / Spider 5 iPad Air Gen 5 (2022) A2589 Special interest into procedural texture filter, edit alpha channel, RGB/16 and RGB/32 color formats, stacking, finding root causes for misbehaving files, finding creative solutions for unsolvable tasks, finding bugs in Apps. My posts focus on technical aspects and leave out most of social grease like „maybe“, „in my opinion“, „I might be wrong“ etc. just add copy/paste all these softeners from this signature to make reading more comfortable for you. Otherwise I’m a fine person which respects you and everyone and wants to be respected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeyboardMap Posted August 18 Author Share Posted August 18 A rectangle testfile.afdesign that's colored green. Has the same issues Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotMyFault Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 I would recommend to set the display to sRGB and set windows display profile to sRGB. Quote Mac mini M1 A2348 | Windows 10 - AMD Ryzen 9 5900x - 32 GB RAM - Nvidia GTX 1080 LG34WK950U-W, calibrated to DCI-P3 with LG Calibration Studio / Spider 5 iPad Air Gen 5 (2022) A2589 Special interest into procedural texture filter, edit alpha channel, RGB/16 and RGB/32 color formats, stacking, finding root causes for misbehaving files, finding creative solutions for unsolvable tasks, finding bugs in Apps. My posts focus on technical aspects and leave out most of social grease like „maybe“, „in my opinion“, „I might be wrong“ etc. just add copy/paste all these softeners from this signature to make reading more comfortable for you. Otherwise I’m a fine person which respects you and everyone and wants to be respected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeyboardMap Posted August 18 Author Share Posted August 18 There is no display profile option for sRGB and I can't seem to find any sRGB preset or setting in my monitor; besides, is it normal for the color to display that off (75,119,74 on what Affinity says is 50,120,70): only on one monitor does the color picker tool show that RGB value; when its put on the other monitor it shows an RGB closer to what's shown by affinity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotMyFault Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 In the light grey windows UI (color management) you normally find sRGB Quote Mac mini M1 A2348 | Windows 10 - AMD Ryzen 9 5900x - 32 GB RAM - Nvidia GTX 1080 LG34WK950U-W, calibrated to DCI-P3 with LG Calibration Studio / Spider 5 iPad Air Gen 5 (2022) A2589 Special interest into procedural texture filter, edit alpha channel, RGB/16 and RGB/32 color formats, stacking, finding root causes for misbehaving files, finding creative solutions for unsolvable tasks, finding bugs in Apps. My posts focus on technical aspects and leave out most of social grease like „maybe“, „in my opinion“, „I might be wrong“ etc. just add copy/paste all these softeners from this signature to make reading more comfortable for you. Otherwise I’m a fine person which respects you and everyone and wants to be respected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotMyFault Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 Or download from the source https://color.org/srgbprofiles.xalter Quote Mac mini M1 A2348 | Windows 10 - AMD Ryzen 9 5900x - 32 GB RAM - Nvidia GTX 1080 LG34WK950U-W, calibrated to DCI-P3 with LG Calibration Studio / Spider 5 iPad Air Gen 5 (2022) A2589 Special interest into procedural texture filter, edit alpha channel, RGB/16 and RGB/32 color formats, stacking, finding root causes for misbehaving files, finding creative solutions for unsolvable tasks, finding bugs in Apps. My posts focus on technical aspects and leave out most of social grease like „maybe“, „in my opinion“, „I might be wrong“ etc. just add copy/paste all these softeners from this signature to make reading more comfortable for you. Otherwise I’m a fine person which respects you and everyone and wants to be respected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeyboardMap Posted August 18 Author Share Posted August 18 sRGB has fixed all issues with Affinity; do I lose out on anything by using the sRGB profile over the one included? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotMyFault Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 In theory your display is capable to support DCI-P3 color profile and covers 138% of sRGB. It can show more saturated red/green/blue colors. It depends how the final images gets viewed, and if those devices support P3, too. But as I said, you have a gaming display not intended for accurate color rendition for photo editing, and using non-rgb profiles is a bit more complex. https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/lg/27gl850-b-27gl83a-b once you are more familiar with color management, give it try. But for now enjoy working with sRGB, it’s far less complex. Quote Mac mini M1 A2348 | Windows 10 - AMD Ryzen 9 5900x - 32 GB RAM - Nvidia GTX 1080 LG34WK950U-W, calibrated to DCI-P3 with LG Calibration Studio / Spider 5 iPad Air Gen 5 (2022) A2589 Special interest into procedural texture filter, edit alpha channel, RGB/16 and RGB/32 color formats, stacking, finding root causes for misbehaving files, finding creative solutions for unsolvable tasks, finding bugs in Apps. My posts focus on technical aspects and leave out most of social grease like „maybe“, „in my opinion“, „I might be wrong“ etc. just add copy/paste all these softeners from this signature to make reading more comfortable for you. Otherwise I’m a fine person which respects you and everyone and wants to be respected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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