ASUNDER Posted August 10, 2024 Posted August 10, 2024 Wow I can't get symbols to work for me at all. When changing or duplicating a symbol it keeps updating the icon of the symbol for some reason. And it refuses to sync the symbols in my project. Changing one doesn't change the other ones. If I have sync on it just changes the icon in the pane. If I have sync off it won't change all the symbol objects (not that it does anyway tho). Then I tried to add a new symbol and it crashed the program. TF is this thing? I've watched two tutorials but I still don't get it. My symbols aren't acting like what I saw on the videos. Quote Windows 10 Home 22H2 64 bit Affinity Designer 2.5.3 , Photo 2 , Publisher 2 Good computer
firstdefence Posted August 10, 2024 Posted August 10, 2024 There should be a flow chart for symbol processes. Quote iMac 27" 2019 Sequoia 15.0 (24A335), iMac 27" Affinity Designer, Photo & Publisher V1 & V2, Adobe, Inkscape, Vectorstyler, Blender, C4D, Sketchup + more... XP-Pen Artist-22E, - iPad Pro 12.9 (Please refrain from licking the screen while using this forum) Affinity Help - Affinity Desktop Tutorials - Feedback - FAQ - most asked questions
NotMyFault Posted August 10, 2024 Posted August 10, 2024 Do you change the orientation of the symbol, or the orientation of the layer inside the symbol? rotating the symbol instance in a document does not change the symbol in the library. rotating the layer inside the symbol impacts the symbol in the library. can you please provide a screen recording? It should include the relevant panels: symbols layers transform panel navigator panel Quote Mac mini M1 A2348 | MBP M3 Windows 11 - AMD Ryzen 9 5900x - 32 GB RAM - Nvidia GTX 1080 LG34WK950U-W, calibrated to DCI-P3 with LG Calibration Studio / Spider 5 | Dell 27“ 4K iPad Air Gen 5 (2022) A2589 Special interest into procedural texture filter, edit alpha channel, RGB/16 and RGB/32 color formats, stacking, finding root causes for misbehaving files, finding creative solutions for unsolvable tasks, finding bugs in Apps. I use iPad screenshots and videos even in the Desktop section of the forum when I expect no relevant difference.
ASUNDER Posted August 10, 2024 Author Posted August 10, 2024 20 minutes ago, NotMyFault said: can you please provide a screen recording? It should include the relevant panels: I was making a video on a fresh project but it's working now. Something about my previous project it didn't like. This is what it looks like when the layers are working: It's odd to me that it auto generated a group for each triangle when I duplicated it. This is the previous project. Notice the empty group and the dotted lines. I don't even remember now if I had got it working finally, but I think that I gave up and just did things manually. I expanded the groups to see the icons: The Symbols pane: The layers are named epic because I don't know what to call them. It's that "epic" behind person style that I was going for, like the epic kid: If a dev sees this, there were multiple crashes and they were from trying to drag a symbol group layer over top another one. Also getting crashes when dragging stock images into a large project. Quote Windows 10 Home 22H2 64 bit Affinity Designer 2.5.3 , Photo 2 , Publisher 2 Good computer
lepr Posted August 10, 2024 Posted August 10, 2024 28 minutes ago, ASUNDER said: there were multiple crashes and they were from trying to drag a symbol group layer over top another one Be careful not to nest an instance of a symbol inside another instance of that symbol. The app should be coded to prevent the creation of an infinitely recursing object structure, but that hasn't been done rigorously; although a little improvement was made a while ago, the user can easily create such a structure accidentally and provoke a crash. Quote
NotMyFault Posted August 10, 2024 Posted August 10, 2024 2 hours ago, ASUNDER said: It's odd to me that it auto generated a group for each triangle when I duplicated it. Symbols can take only one child layer. In case you want to add multiple, a group is required - it seems Affinity does this automatically. 2 hours ago, ASUNDER said: I was making a video on a fresh project but it's working now. Something about my previous project it didn't like. It would be great if you file bug reports only when you have the actual file at hand for upload and screenshots / screen recordings so that others (the Affinity team specifically) can reproduce. Quote Mac mini M1 A2348 | MBP M3 Windows 11 - AMD Ryzen 9 5900x - 32 GB RAM - Nvidia GTX 1080 LG34WK950U-W, calibrated to DCI-P3 with LG Calibration Studio / Spider 5 | Dell 27“ 4K iPad Air Gen 5 (2022) A2589 Special interest into procedural texture filter, edit alpha channel, RGB/16 and RGB/32 color formats, stacking, finding root causes for misbehaving files, finding creative solutions for unsolvable tasks, finding bugs in Apps. I use iPad screenshots and videos even in the Desktop section of the forum when I expect no relevant difference.
walt.farrell Posted August 10, 2024 Posted August 10, 2024 1 hour ago, NotMyFault said: It would be great if you file bug reports only when you have the actual file at hand for upload and screenshots / screen recordings so that others (the Affinity team specifically) can reproduce. Note: this is a Questions topic, not a Bugs topic. But yes, it's nice to have all the info available even for answering questions. Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2, 16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 18.5, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sequoia 15.5
NotMyFault Posted August 10, 2024 Posted August 10, 2024 1 hour ago, walt.farrell said: Note: this is a Questions topic, not a Bugs topic. Noted. Applies for this kind of questions, too. Too many times users reported issues (as questions or bugs does not matter) and when someone steps in trying to help the OP said he deleted the file, or he cannot reproduce the issue any more. walt.farrell 1 Quote Mac mini M1 A2348 | MBP M3 Windows 11 - AMD Ryzen 9 5900x - 32 GB RAM - Nvidia GTX 1080 LG34WK950U-W, calibrated to DCI-P3 with LG Calibration Studio / Spider 5 | Dell 27“ 4K iPad Air Gen 5 (2022) A2589 Special interest into procedural texture filter, edit alpha channel, RGB/16 and RGB/32 color formats, stacking, finding root causes for misbehaving files, finding creative solutions for unsolvable tasks, finding bugs in Apps. I use iPad screenshots and videos even in the Desktop section of the forum when I expect no relevant difference.
ASUNDER Posted August 10, 2024 Author Posted August 10, 2024 4 hours ago, lepr said: Be careful not to nest an instance of a symbol inside another instance of that symbol. The app should be coded to prevent the creation of an infinitely recursing object structure, but that hasn't been done rigorously; although a little improvement was made a while ago, the user can easily create such a structure accidentally and provoke a crash. That is what probably happened, yes. I was thinking myself if I had made an infinite loop. 2 hours ago, NotMyFault said: It would be great if you file bug reports only when you have the actual file at hand for upload and screenshots / screen recordings so that others (the Affinity team specifically) can reproduce. It's a question about the method for making the symbols work properly; I don't even know if it's a bug or not. There's several replies here but not an answer to my query about the method to use them; seeing as I was getting different behavior than the tutorials. In a fresh project it magically started working again (just to make me look bad of course; my computer likes to troll me), so if it's a one-time random occurrence then I'm not interested in following up with it. If it happens again then I will do a full bug report in that forum area. Quote Windows 10 Home 22H2 64 bit Affinity Designer 2.5.3 , Photo 2 , Publisher 2 Good computer
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