[2.5.3 (2613)] Add a way to view the app's store source from the My Account dialog ?

[R C-R]

I do not seem to find any way to do this in the jut released 2.5.3 (2613) betas. What am I missing?

Also, in the Account window, there is a line saying "This application is licensed to:" but there is nothing after the colon. Instead, above that next to the large app logo it shows my name & email address. It seems like that info should be after the colon, not above it next to the app logo.

BTW, I'm not sure this is where I should be asking this but if it is not please let me know.

[walt.farrell]

1 hour ago, R C-R said:

Also, in the Account window, there is a line saying "This application is licensed to:" but there is nothing after the colon. Instead, above that next to the large app logo it shows my name & email address. It seems like that info should be after the colon, not above it next to the app logo.

On Windows I'm not seeing that line. This is what I see:

It is a bit confusing, though. Because if I click that disclosure arrow on the left of "My licence" I get a list of my add-ons. I was expecting to see licence details.

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I'm not sure what you mean by "the app's store source" in your topic title. Unless you're referring to this same confusion. Just click the disclosure arrow if you meant you want to see the add-ons in your Store account.

[R C-R]

1 hour ago, walt.farrell said:

I'm not sure what you mean by "the app's store source" in your topic title.

I mean item 3 of https://forum.affinity.serif.com/index.php?/topic/202292-25-beta-bug-fix-list/&do=findComment&comment=1261119

 

It says this:

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• [Desktop] Add a way to view the app's store source from the My Account dialog

Edited August 9, 2024 by R C-R
Made URL clickable.

[R C-R]

1 hour ago, walt.farrell said:

On Windows I'm not seeing that line. This is what I see:

This what I see:

[Westerwälder]

Nichts Schlimmes, aber in den Kontoeinstellungen ist nicht alles in Deutsch übersetzt. In der Vollversion ist alles in Deutsch!

Nothing bad, but not everything in the account settings is translated into German. In the full version everything is in German!

Gruß Westerwälder

[R C-R]

@Westerwälder, what if anything does this have to do with a way to view the app's store source from the My Account dialog?

[walt.farrell]

23 hours ago, R C-R said:

This what I see:

That's what I see on macOS, too. On Windows, it looks as I showed it earlier.

 

[walt.farrell]

@Patrick Connor: Can you clarify this statement from the 2.5.5.2613 list of fixes, please?

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• [Desktop] Add a way to view the app's store source from the My Account dialog

What is the "app's store source"?

[R C-R]

1 hour ago, walt.farrell said:

That's what I see on macOS, too. On Windows, it looks as I showed it earlier.

So there is definitely at least one oddity here, that being the difference between the Mac & Windows display. There is also the odd disclosure thing.

[Patrick Connor]

On 8/10/2024 at 8:05 PM, walt.farrell said:

What is the "app's store source"?

It shows in My account more clearly the build source, as in where you got the application from so Affinity Store or Mac App Store or Microsoft Store or iPad Store, and  beta or release

BETA

# Affinity v2 beta on Mac, or iPad or (sandboxed) Windows
beta2-X [where X=Primary]
beta2-Y [where Y=Secondary]

# Affinity v2 beta on non-sandboxed Windows (MSI/EXE)
beta2nsb-X [where X=Primary]
beta2nsb-Y [where Y=Secondary]

RELEASE

# Affinity v2 release on Mac, or iPad or (sandboxed) Windows (MSIX)
release2-X [where X=Primary]
release2-Y [where Y=Secondary]

# Affinity v2 release on non-sandboxed Windows (MSI/EXE)
release2nsb-X [where X=Primary]
release2nsb-Y [where Y=Secondary]

This "source" helps prove when people have a mix of MSIX and MSI/EXE installs running, which do not talk to each other. the X ad Y at the end are just which one run up first [X] and takes the lead talking to any others running [Ys] if you close an X one of the Ys takes over

[walt.farrell]

50 minutes ago, Patrick Connor said:

It shows in My account more clearly the build source, as in where you got the application from so Affinity Store or Mac App Store or Microsoft Store or iPad Store, and  beta or release

Thanks.

I had noticed that, but not connected it with the announcement that I asked about. Sorry.

[Affinity Info Bot]

An issue raised in this thread ("[iPad] Live Docs flickers when switching between apps") has now been reported to the developers by the testing team (Ref: AF-4066). Thank you very much for reporting this issue to us.

[EmT]

On 8/9/2024 at 6:27 PM, R C-R said:

Also, in the Account window, there is a line saying "This application is licensed to:"

Hi @R C-R

This should match Desktop and show 'My licence', I've logged this with the devs.
Thanks for your report. 

[R C-R]

1 hour ago, Patrick Connor said:

# Affinity v2 beta on Mac, or iPad or (sandboxed) Windows
xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx-beta2-X [where X=Primary]
xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx-beta2-Y [where Y=Secondary]
{...}

the nnnnn is machine specific so a beta and release on the same machine will have the same number but a mac beta and a windows beta would not be the same.

I do not see anything like the nnnnn number on my Mac for the V2 betas, just this:

Regardless, why make showing where you got the application from so complicated? Why not just a part of the ID: line that says in plain language which store each build came from.

Also, does the "primary" & "secondary" thing have any relevance for Mac users?

[Patrick Connor]

30 minutes ago, R C-R said:

Regardless, why make showing where you got the application from so complicated? Why not just a part of the ID: line that says in plain language which store each build came from.

Ah we may have dropped the nnnnnn and xxxxx stuff for non Serif staff.... I will tweak the post

31 minutes ago, R C-R said:

Also, does the "primary" & "secondary" thing have any relevance for Mac users?

yes it has the same meaning, but is not very important.

[Hangman]

On 8/9/2024 at 7:40 PM, walt.farrell said:

It is a bit confusing, though. Because if I click that disclosure arrow on the left of "My licence" I get a list of my add-ons. I was expecting to see licence details.

This is no different to the Retail release, it simply shows or hides the licence section...

[walt.farrell]

1 hour ago, Hangman said:

This is no different to the Retail release, it simply shows or hides the licence section...

But shouldn't it show it when the arrow points down, and hide it when the arrow points to the right? 

(But thanks for the reminder that it has worked that way for awhile, not just in the beta.)

[Hangman]

3 minutes ago, walt.farrell said:

But shouldn't it show it when the arrow points down, and hide it when the arrow points to the right?

That’s what it’s doing for me, not that there’s any real info in there in the Beta apart from telling me my licence is active and when it will expire…

[R C-R]

3 hours ago, Patrick Connor said:

yes it has the same meaning, but is not very important.

As I understand it there can be no Mac "Y" secondary versions installed since that only applies to the two Windows version types. If so, why even include the "X" for the Mac ones?

Regardless, since apparently the long ID numbers do not appear for users surely there is plenty of room for plain language store info like by replacing "ID:" with "Store:" followed by "Mac," "Affinity" or "Windows." That could sometimes be useful for troubleshooting since if we needed to ask users about which store their app came from, we could tell them to look there.

[R C-R]

2 hours ago, Hangman said:

This is no different to the Retail release, it simply shows or hides the licence section...

To be clear(er), for me the Retail release shows/hides the licensing info (my name & email address) below the "This application licensed to:" line, but in the beta that licensing info appears above it, to the right of the app logo, so it has no effect, unlike with the retail version.

Also, when toggled to 'show' in the retail version I get the long (& useless to me) ID: number string; while in the beta there is no long ID string.

Additionally, in both versions the tooltip "Hide license and device information" only appears when it is open. It shows nothing when it is closed. Should it not show "Show license and device information" when closed & only displaying "My add-ons"?

Basically, the beta version info is a confused & nearly useless mess, at least to me.

[walt.farrell]

1 hour ago, R C-R said:

As I understand it there can be no Mac "Y" secondary versions installed since that only applies to the two Windows version types. If so, why even include the "X" for the Mac ones?

X denotes the first (primary) Affinity app that you start. Y denotes the second or third one (secondary) you start. 

The OS is not relevant for this.

[R C-R]

3 minutes ago, walt.farrell said:

X denotes the first (primary) Affinity app that you start. Y denotes the second or third one (secondary) you start. 

OK I guess, but at least to me "primary" & "secondary" don't tell me anything useful I need to know ... or why there isn't a tertiary "Z" suffix for a third one I have opened if there actually is a good reason I might need to know the order in which I started the apps.

Then there is still the issue about what if anything is useful or important to users about the long ID number or why it doesn't show in the beta & why there is no straightforward plain language info about which store source each app came from. That's the only thing I can think of that actually would be useful to display there.

[walt.farrell]

10 minutes ago, R C-R said:

or why there isn't a tertiary "Z" suffix for a third one I have opened if there actually is a good reason I might need to know the order in which I started the apps.

You don't need to know. That info is really for Serif. 

And tertiary isn't important. Primary does some functions, and non-primary (aka secondary) does different ones (or does them differently).

[R C-R]

12 minutes ago, walt.farrell said:

You don't need to know. That info is really for Serif. 

Then why do we users even need to see it? The text string can't be copied to the clipboard so it could be included in a PM or sent to Serif in any other way than in a screenshot. And why is it MIA in the betas?

15 minutes ago, walt.farrell said:

And tertiary isn't important. Primary does some functions, and non-primary (aka secondary) does different ones (or does them differently).

Can you list any of these functions that work differently depending on which one I opened first? I can't think of anything like that for the Mac versions so maybe this just applies to Windows?

[walt.farrell]

29 minutes ago, R C-R said:

Can you list any of these functions that work differently depending on which one I opened first? I can't think of anything like that for the Mac versions so maybe this just applies to Windows?

It should apply to both, but I doubt it's anything users would notice. The Primary is the one the other apps need to communicate with when starting up, I think. And probably it provides some coordination when updating the shared data files for Assets, Brushes, etc.