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Im not that sort of typography specialist […]

If the font seems to be too big I just lower the size of it

 

 

If you type in 4 cm (for a square/pictogram) and don’t get (a square/pictogram with) 4 cm, you would try to change it by hand/manually? Very funny. Working without a computer would be better. Changing the font size is a great idea. :D

 

Using cap height has many advantages.

 

Do you know how big a text is when using “Text Height”? Most users don’t. They know it when using cap height. Hot metal typesetting should be be a thing of the past.

 

You don’t have to know everything (about typography), you need apps that work correctly.

 

BTW: Other designers have no time, use other apps or don’t know that AD has a cap height feature.

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Honestly, Oval, I also have a hard time to understand how you were reaching your results.

 

I fear you have to provide more information about the fonts you are using in order to help the developers make sense of your remarks. I am sure you are aware that there are so many different versions of Optima, Gill Sans, Palatino, Calibre, Futura, Big Caslon around, that it simply does not help to name these fonts without providing more details. What you are doing does not count as a reasonable bug report, in my humble opinion … sorry …  :(

 

Sorry, fürs Deutsch, aber wir verlieren sonst zu viel Zeit.

 

Du hast da vielleicht etwas missverstanden. Bevor wir etwas behaupten, überprüfen wir es sehr genau. Das macht man auf dem Festland halt so. Trotzdem wird gerne das Gegenteil behauptet. Ich erinnere beispielsweise an die Fehlinformationen bezüglich des Publisher-Launches. Wir haben den Output von AD mit dem von anderen sog. professionellen Programmen verglichen. AD kommt zu oft zu falschen Ergebnissen. Kann jeder nachvollziehen, wenn er jeweils auch – wie wir – mit den jeweils gleichen Schriften testet. Dass man sich trotzdem erst weigert, das zu verbessern oder einfach mal nur nachzuvollziehen, bleibt unverständlich. Es ist Wurscht, welche Schriften man nutzt, man muss nur jeweils die selben in allen Apps vergleichen. Ist das nun klar geworden? Kann auch jeder einfach nur in AD nachvollziehen: Versal-Hs jeweils einzeln (AD kann leider nicht differenzieren) in unterschiedlichen Schriften in Pfade wandeln: Die meisten Pfade werden nicht die eingegebene Versalhöhe haben. Warum das vorher nicht bei Serif überprüft worden ist? Dass Menschen hier nach Bildern schreien, zeigt nur ihre Konsumhaltung. Das Programm wird als professionell beworben. Warum Menschen nun mit Hobby-Argumenten kommen? Wir haben so viele schlechte Typografie, weil sich selbst Profis nicht mehr darum bemühen. Selbst professionelle Blätter strotzen vor Fehlern, weil man denkt, dass die Software die Fehler erkennt. Hätte Erik kein böses Aufwach-Video produziert, hätten wir nur noch schlechte Typo auf iOS.

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Oval, I believe you, you certainly performed your tests, and you seem to have found a bug …

 

But you must see the problem from the other perspective as well. I have at least three different versions of Helvetica in my font library. Suppose, I would find a problem with the rendering of text in Affinity Designer when I am using one of these versions. It would certainly make no sense to tell the developers that “Helvetica” doesn’t work, while it performs great in other applications … see my point? I fear the developers just need a little more information in order to make sense of your report …  :)

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[…] I fear the developers just need a little more information in order to make sense of your report …  :)

 

Please tell us, what in “4cm/c results in 4.0904…cm“ needs more information to check the algorithm of calculating cap heights.** And have you tried the bold marked text part?

 

BTW: The answer was no improvements. That really motivates purchasers!

 

**All other apps are wrong and only AD’s cap heights are correct?!

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Okay … I see what you mean. Thank you for clarifying this …  :)

 

I assume this issue shows up, because Designer uses the global caps height value specified in the font file and not the actual glyph data for calculation, just as Dave Harris indicated (if I understood him correctly).

 

Well, I admit that some font designers seem to be a bit careless when setting these global values. As you can see in my version of Arial (Microsoft/Monotype, v5.01.2x), the glyph that assumes the codepoint of the character “H” does not reach up to the line that indicates the global caps height value, and the same goes for other relevant glyphs as well. So maybe the basis of computation should indeed be reconsidered …  :unsure:

 

Thanks again, Alex

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Well, I admit that some font designers seem to be a bit careless when setting these global values. As you can see in my version of Arial (Microsoft/Monotype, v5.01.2x), the glyph that assumes the codepoint of the character “H” does not reach up to the line that indicates the global caps height value, and the same goes for other relevant glyphs as well.

 

For example Gill Sans and Zapfino have the same “carelessies” but you get the correct results.

 

It makes no sense to assume what was programmed. The only thing that counts is that users get the correct results. They told us they will fix it.

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  • 2 weeks later...

Styles - Now has a 'spotlight' style search box.

Tool shortcut fixes for International keyboards.

You can now drop colours from programs like Chroma (by softpress.com - again, no affiliation but they mentioned they'd like to do it, so we tried) directly onto objects on the document.

 

https://www.softpress.com

they somehow stopped their business?

 

I just downloaded Chroma and drag´n drop indeed works and the color palette is nice and big so it´s something like I´d want AD to have (and something likehttps://color.adobe.com/de/create/color-wheel/ as well) 

 

Just really strange that you implemented something from a company that stops business  :blink: not sure if I´ll buy it für 11 bugs cause your "create document palette" is pretty similar right?

 

 

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https://www.softpress.com

they somehow stopped their business?

 

I just downloaded Chroma and drag´n drop indeed works and the color palette is nice and big so it´s something like I´d want AD to have (and something likehttps://color.adobe.com/de/create/color-wheel/ as well) 

 

Just really strange that you implemented something from a company that stops business  :blink: not sure if I´ll buy it für 11 bugs cause your "create document palette" is pretty similar right?

Err... wow! When we implemented it, it was because they reached out and asked if we would, and they were very much still in business... and to be fair, we only added it because it's actually just supporting the drop operation of an NSColor (OS X's internal colour type) from the clipboard, so it's actually a good thing to have for other apps that may put this type on the clipboard, so all is not lost, but... wow, wasn't expecting that one!  :blink:

 

Software development's a turbulent business at times!  :rolleyes:

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...... it's actually just supporting the drop operation of an NSColor (OS X's internal colour type) from the clipboard, so it's actually a good thing to have for other apps that may put this type on the clipboard, so all is not lost, but... wow, wasn't expecting that one!  :blink:

Yeah I guessed that it is still an overall win.

 

Software development's a turbulent business at times!   :rolleyes:

Totally crazy  :wacko:  :o  :ph34r:

 

https://twitter.com/mattp4478/status/753502120863789056  :D

Edited by MBd

 

 

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