GarryP Posted August 5, 2024 Posted August 5, 2024 Just an experiment – it’s not for a real thing. I’ve included three different variants on the same theme using the same text. I’m fairly pleased with the results but can’t be bothered to mess around with it any further (there are various things that probably need ‘tweaking’ one way or another). It would be nice to see what other people can make along the same lines, maybe using a totally different layout and/or artistic style. If you want to try making your own version, the ‘rules and regulations’ are as follows: A4 paper in a Portrait orientation; Any Affinity application(s) can be used; You can use as much, or as little, colour as you want; Imported images or vector objects are not allowed – everything to be created inside the application(s); Brushes that don’t come bundled with the applications are not allowed; Text should give the same information as that in my versions, no more, no less. Note: As far as I know, there isn’t a solar eclipse which is visible at this location on the date given and I haven’t even bothered to check whether the date I used is actually a Thursday. It’s all just a bit of fun. Komatös, PaulEC, jmwellborn and 4 others 7 Quote
Archangel Posted August 5, 2024 Posted August 5, 2024 @GarryP First class work sir. GarryP, jmwellborn and Alfred 2 1 Quote
jmwellborn Posted August 5, 2024 Posted August 5, 2024 @GarryP Can't come close to beating any of them. Therefore not insulting you by trying. I like version 3 the best! It seems uncluttered, although using exactly the same words as the other two versions. And the eclipse itself looks far more impressive! Got my reservation set for hot and cold food on May 19, 2029! Alfred 1 Quote 24" iMAC Apple M1 chip, 8-core CPU, 8-core GPU, 16 GB unified memory, 1 TB SSD storage, Ventura 13.7.6. Photo, Publisher, Designer 1.10.5, and 2.6. MacBook Pro 13" 2020, Apple M1 chip, 16GB unified memory, 256GB SSD storage, Ventura 13.7.6. Publisher, Photo, Designer 2.6. iPad Pro 12.9 2020 (4th Gen. IOS 16.6.1); Apple pencil. Wired and bluetooth mice and keyboards.
GarryP Posted August 6, 2024 Author Posted August 6, 2024 14 hours ago, Archangel said: First class work sir. Cheers. Archangel 1 Quote
GarryP Posted August 6, 2024 Author Posted August 6, 2024 13 hours ago, jmwellborn said: I like version 3 the best! It seems uncluttered, although using exactly the same words as the other two versions. I’m leaning towards preferring the third version too; it seems ‘cleaner’ to me somehow, but I can’t explain why. 13 hours ago, jmwellborn said: Got my reservation set for hot and cold food on May 19, 2029! Remember to take your own eclipse glasses. I’ve heard that the ones the organiser is going to be selling are just cheap plastic sunglasses dipped in black paint. Alfred, jmwellborn and Komatös 3 Quote
Alfred Posted August 6, 2024 Posted August 6, 2024 14 hours ago, Archangel said: @GarryP First class work sir. 13 hours ago, jmwellborn said: @GarryP Can't come close to beating any of them. Therefore not insulting you by trying. I like version 3 the best! What they said! jmwellborn and GarryP 1 1 Quote Alfred Affinity Designer/Photo/Publisher 2 for Windows • Windows 10 Home/Pro Affinity Designer/Photo/Publisher 2 for iPad • iPadOS 17.5.1 (iPad 7th gen)
Alfred Posted August 6, 2024 Posted August 6, 2024 13 hours ago, jmwellborn said: Can't come close to beating any of them. *eclipsing jmwellborn, GarryP and Komatös 3 Quote Alfred Affinity Designer/Photo/Publisher 2 for Windows • Windows 10 Home/Pro Affinity Designer/Photo/Publisher 2 for iPad • iPadOS 17.5.1 (iPad 7th gen)
thomaso Posted August 6, 2024 Posted August 6, 2024 58 minutes ago, GarryP said: it seems ‘cleaner’ to me somehow, but I can’t explain why Its groups have more edges in common / it has more elements with shared edges. Shared edges calm down a layout. What if you align the words in thin type at the dotted line (= common centre with moon / same distance to the moon)? Aammppaa 1 Quote • MacBookPro Retina 15" | macOS 10.14.6 | Eizo 27" | Affinity V1 • iPad 10.Gen. | iOS 18.5. | Affinity V2.6
GarryP Posted August 6, 2024 Author Posted August 6, 2024 10 minutes ago, thomaso said: Its groups have more edges in common / it has more elements with shared edges. Shared edges calm down a layout. I think you could be right about that. Shared edges, like in a book. 10 minutes ago, thomaso said: What if you align the words in thin type at the dotted line Yeah, that does improve it a bit – the FREE ADMITTANCE didn’t look right doing it that way though (too near the moon). nomi02118 and joe_l 2 Quote
joe_l Posted August 6, 2024 Posted August 6, 2024 I really like the image and how the text is arranged left to the eclipse. IMO too many different fonts / variants are used. The text needs more space around it, because the image is the eye catcher. All in all I would be interested to come. Quote ---------- Windows 10 / 11, Complete Suite Retail and Beta
Alfred Posted August 6, 2024 Posted August 6, 2024 Pedantry: ‘wholly dependant’ should be ‘wholly dependent’. The noun is spelled/spelt ‘dependant’ in British English but ‘dependent’ in American English; the adjective, however, is ‘dependent’ in both cases. Quote Alfred Affinity Designer/Photo/Publisher 2 for Windows • Windows 10 Home/Pro Affinity Designer/Photo/Publisher 2 for iPad • iPadOS 17.5.1 (iPad 7th gen)
GarryP Posted August 6, 2024 Author Posted August 6, 2024 Yeah, you’re right, and I missed it; too busy faffing around with other stuff to notice. Alfred 1 Quote
G13RL Posted August 6, 2024 Posted August 6, 2024 Less spectacular, but I wanted to try to incorporate the eclipse into the text. Quote
thomaso Posted August 6, 2024 Posted August 6, 2024 2 hours ago, Alfred said: The noun is spelled/spelt ‘dependant’ Is the word with this sense indeed a "noun"? I would expect the noun is "dependency" (condition), not ‘dependent’ (property). There is dependency between eclipse and weather, while the first is dependent from the latter Quote • MacBookPro Retina 15" | macOS 10.14.6 | Eizo 27" | Affinity V1 • iPad 10.Gen. | iOS 18.5. | Affinity V2.6
GarryP Posted August 6, 2024 Author Posted August 6, 2024 55 minutes ago, G13RL said: Less spectacular, but I wanted to try to incorporate the eclipse into the text. Apart from some textual mistakes (like I can talk given the “dependant/dependent” thing above) I think that still stands out while having fewer non-text elements than my version. If I saw it in a shop window it would certainly catch my eye, and that’s the first job that a poster needs to do. Quote
G13RL Posted August 6, 2024 Posted August 6, 2024 Thanks, but I'm starting to worry, I'm letting a lot of text errors slip through despite having to reread it several times! Quote
GarryP Posted August 6, 2024 Author Posted August 6, 2024 24 minutes ago, G13RL said: I'm letting a lot of text errors slip through despite having to reread it several times! It happens to the best of us, or so the best of us keep telling me. Quote
G13RL Posted August 6, 2024 Posted August 6, 2024 15 minutes ago, GarryP said: It happens to the best of us, or so the best of us keep telling me. Unfortunately, that's no consolation! 🥲 Quote
Alfred Posted August 6, 2024 Posted August 6, 2024 2 hours ago, thomaso said: Is the word with this sense indeed a "noun"? I would expect the noun is "dependency" (condition), not ‘dependent’ (property). There is dependency between eclipse and weather, while the first is dependent from the latter Dependency is, as you say, a condition. The (countable) noun ‘dependant’ refers to a person who depends on someone else for support, usually financial support. 2 hours ago, thomaso said: the first is dependent from the latter *dependent on You wouldn’t say “it depends from your point of view”, you would say “it depends on your point of view”. (It’s stylistically preferable to choose between “first … second” and “former … latter”, rather than mixing the two.) thomaso 1 Quote Alfred Affinity Designer/Photo/Publisher 2 for Windows • Windows 10 Home/Pro Affinity Designer/Photo/Publisher 2 for iPad • iPadOS 17.5.1 (iPad 7th gen)
sansnom Posted August 6, 2024 Posted August 6, 2024 ...I got caught up in the game a bit!… Affinity Designer and a bit of iconographic research to draw the bay and the eclipse… 🫢 GarryP and G13RL 2 Quote
jmwellborn Posted August 6, 2024 Posted August 6, 2024 @Alfred “Thurstday” is not dependent upon the rest of the week. 🥴 Alfred and thomaso 2 Quote 24" iMAC Apple M1 chip, 8-core CPU, 8-core GPU, 16 GB unified memory, 1 TB SSD storage, Ventura 13.7.6. Photo, Publisher, Designer 1.10.5, and 2.6. MacBook Pro 13" 2020, Apple M1 chip, 16GB unified memory, 256GB SSD storage, Ventura 13.7.6. Publisher, Photo, Designer 2.6. iPad Pro 12.9 2020 (4th Gen. IOS 16.6.1); Apple pencil. Wired and bluetooth mice and keyboards.
thomaso Posted August 6, 2024 Posted August 6, 2024 2 hours ago, Alfred said: The (countable) noun ‘dependant’ refers to a person who depends on someone else Yes, "… refers to a person" Garry's text does not use an article + noun but an adjective (or participle?): "The eclipse is wholly dependent on the weather", not "The eclipse is a / is the weather dependant". – So I wonder why you mentioned the "noun" at all. I also wonder, like @sansnom from France, why it isn't simply "The eclipse depends on…"? Or, if the text still depends on the auxiliary verb "is": "The eclipse is wholly depending on the weather." Quote • MacBookPro Retina 15" | macOS 10.14.6 | Eizo 27" | Affinity V1 • iPad 10.Gen. | iOS 18.5. | Affinity V2.6
Alfred Posted August 6, 2024 Posted August 6, 2024 1 hour ago, thomaso said: I wonder why you mentioned the "noun" Merely to say that ‘dependant’ is only used in British English (and the closely related ‘flavours’ of English used in Australia, New Zealand, and Canada). The spelling ‘dependant’ is never right, for either the adjective or the noun, in American English. thomaso 1 Quote Alfred Affinity Designer/Photo/Publisher 2 for Windows • Windows 10 Home/Pro Affinity Designer/Photo/Publisher 2 for iPad • iPadOS 17.5.1 (iPad 7th gen)
smadell Posted August 6, 2024 Posted August 6, 2024 While everyone is arguing grammar, hasn't anyone noticed that there is no day of the week spelled "Thurstday"? Also, the versions submitted by G13RL and sansnom call the main event "Totally" instead of "Totality"? Isn't that, perhaps, a tad more important? jmwellborn 1 Quote Affinity Photo 2, Affinity Publisher 2, Affinity Designer 2 (latest retail versions) - desktop & iPad Culling - FastRawViewer; Raw Developer - Capture One Pro; Asset Management - Photo Supreme Mac Studio with M2 Max (2023); 64 GB RAM; macOS 13 (Ventura); Mac Studio Display - iPad Air 4th Gen; iPadOS 18
Alfred Posted August 6, 2024 Posted August 6, 2024 36 minutes ago, smadell said: While everyone is arguing grammar, hasn't anyone noticed that there is no day of the week spelled "Thurstday"? Some of us did, Seth, but it seemed that you didn’t notice Jennifer’s allusion to it! And: 36 minutes ago, smadell said: Also, the versions submitted by G13RL and sansnom call the main event "Totally" instead of "Totality"? I hope you’re not suggesting that the main event doesn’t totally begin at 2:34pm, dude! Quote Alfred Affinity Designer/Photo/Publisher 2 for Windows • Windows 10 Home/Pro Affinity Designer/Photo/Publisher 2 for iPad • iPadOS 17.5.1 (iPad 7th gen)
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