augustya Posted July 29, 2024 Posted July 29, 2024 Hi Guys, Wanted to know any good standard method to adjust the Body and face Colour of a subject on a Photo. I know there can be many but what is the most easiest and effective way to do it ? For e.g. If there is too much yellow on the body and face of the subject in a Photo how do I reduce it ? Using the HSL adjustment or something ? Quote
jmwellborn Posted July 29, 2024 Posted July 29, 2024 @augustya I have just finished working with 86 portrait-style images from a 1950 publication. Every one was more or less yellowed. I found the easiest way to start was with a Curves Adjustment. Usually an additional slight White Balance Adjustment made a huge difference. I am sure other Forum members will have far better answers. user_0815 1 Quote 24" iMAC Apple M1 chip, 8-core CPU, 8-core GPU, 16 GB unified memory, 1 TB SSD storage, Ventura 13.7.6. Photo, Publisher, Designer 1.10.5, and 2.6. MacBook Pro 13" 2020, Apple M1 chip, 16GB unified memory, 256GB SSD storage, Ventura 13.7.6. Publisher, Photo, Designer 2.6. iPad Pro 12.9 2020 (4th Gen. IOS 16.6.1); Apple pencil. Wired and bluetooth mice and keyboards.
user_0815 Posted July 29, 2024 Posted July 29, 2024 Not „better“ but a different approach. I use the HSL adjustment if it’s not too far off. I open the scopes panel and check for the skin tone axis. Then, in the HSL panel I sample the skin tone from the face and move the hue left or right to get the skin tone better on that axis. An alternative is selective Color. There Go to the red (which is the closest to Skin colour) and reduce the yellow contribution. augustya and jmwellborn 2 Quote
augustya Posted July 29, 2024 Author Posted July 29, 2024 59 minutes ago, jmwellborn said: @augustya I have just finished working with 86 portrait-style images from a 1950 publication. Every one was more or less yellowed. I found the easiest way to start was with a Curves Adjustment. Usually an additional slight White Balance Adjustment made a huge difference. I am sure other Forum members will have far better answers. But what is the step you do with Curves Adjustment ? What do you do in that ? Quote
jmwellborn Posted July 29, 2024 Posted July 29, 2024 22 minutes ago, augustya said: But what is the step you do with Curves Adjustment ? What do you do in that ? Here is an example. Each image shows the effect of each adjustment. The original is bottom, right. I should have noted that I often use the Live High Pass Filter to sharpen some of the features, which may have become a little less refined during the process. (I didn't bother to straighten the image — Crop Tool plus Perspective Tool for this example. Copied from a bound volume, it was necessary for my actual project. ) augustya and Old Bruce 2 Quote 24" iMAC Apple M1 chip, 8-core CPU, 8-core GPU, 16 GB unified memory, 1 TB SSD storage, Ventura 13.7.6. Photo, Publisher, Designer 1.10.5, and 2.6. MacBook Pro 13" 2020, Apple M1 chip, 16GB unified memory, 256GB SSD storage, Ventura 13.7.6. Publisher, Photo, Designer 2.6. iPad Pro 12.9 2020 (4th Gen. IOS 16.6.1); Apple pencil. Wired and bluetooth mice and keyboards.
Old Bruce Posted July 29, 2024 Posted July 29, 2024 27 minutes ago, jmwellborn said: Here is an example. For this sort of image I would first try the trick of using a Fill layer set to Divide and sample the colour I don't want. Note that I first used the marquee tool to restrict the area of the fill colour. No fill layer set to divide visible: Fill layer set to divide: In addition as this is a black and white image I would also try using a neutral grey rectangle set to colour blend mode. jmwellborn and walt.farrell 2 Quote Mac Pro (Late 2013) Mac OS 12.7.6 Affinity Designer 2.6.0 | Affinity Photo 2.6.0 | Affinity Publisher 2.6.0 | Beta versions as they appear. I have never mastered color management, period, so I cannot help with that.
augustya Posted July 30, 2024 Author Posted July 30, 2024 15 hours ago, Old Bruce said: For this sort of image I would first try the trick of using a Fill layer set to Divide and sample the colour I don't want. Note that I first used the marquee tool to restrict the area of the fill colour. No fill layer set to divide visible: Fill layer set to divide: In addition as this is a black and white image I would also try using a neutral grey rectangle set to colour blend mode. So use a Fill Layer sample the colour which I do not want and set the layer to divide and then do what ? After sampling the colour? I did not get the next steps to reduce the sample colour which I do not want? Quote
Alfred Posted July 30, 2024 Posted July 30, 2024 19 minutes ago, augustya said: So use a Fill Layer sample the colour which I do not want and set the layer to divide and then do what ? Doesn’t setting the Fill Layer’s blend mode to ‘Divide’ produce the desired result for you? 15 hours ago, Old Bruce said: Fill layer set to divide: Quote Alfred Affinity Designer/Photo/Publisher 2 for Windows • Windows 10 Home/Pro Affinity Designer/Photo/Publisher 2 for iPad • iPadOS 17.5.1 (iPad 7th gen)
augustya Posted July 30, 2024 Author Posted July 30, 2024 1 hour ago, Alfred said: Doesn’t setting the Fill Layer’s blend mode to ‘Divide’ produce the desired result for you? No it makes it worst. Does the placement of full layer matter ? I have some.laterd before on top of my main pixel layer and I have the Full Layer placed the first one top above the other layers.. Does this matter or make a difference in the end result ? Quote
walt.farrell Posted July 30, 2024 Posted July 30, 2024 26 minutes ago, augustya said: Does the placement of full layer matter ? I have some.laterd before on top of my main pixel layer and I have the Full Layer placed the first one top above the other layers.. Does this matter or make a difference in the end result ? Yes, it probably matters, but it's hard for us to be sure because you have not shown us any screenshots or other info so we can't really see what you have. Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2, 16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 18.5, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sequoia 15.5
augustya Posted July 30, 2024 Author Posted July 30, 2024 44 minutes ago, walt.farrell said: Yes, it probably matters, but it's hard for us to be sure because you have not shown us any screenshots or other info so we can't really see what you have. No offence meant ! But for everything you ask a screenshot 🙂 This time around I cannot do that because it is a censored photo. NSFW kinds... Quote
GarryP Posted July 30, 2024 Posted July 30, 2024 29 minutes ago, augustya said: But for everything you ask a screenshot If you are asking for advice about how to change the way something looks, and we can’t see how it looks, that makes it much more difficult to help you. If we can’t see what you can see then that makes visual problems harder to diagnose. In this case, if we can’t see how much yellow is “too much yellow” then we are at a disadvantage when we try to advise you because we don’t know how bad the situation is. 29 minutes ago, augustya said: This time around I cannot do that because it is a censored photo. If you cannot share the image/document, for whatever reason, then if you tell us that at the start we will know that it might take longer to help you, and therefore we can advise as necessary knowing that we won’t be able to see what you can see. Quote
walt.farrell Posted July 30, 2024 Posted July 30, 2024 30 minutes ago, augustya said: But for everything you ask a screenshot That's because using words is very imprecise for most users, and they don't really explain everything that is relevant. If you can't let us see the image, then at least a screenshot of the Layers panel would be useful. R C-R 1 Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2, 16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 18.5, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sequoia 15.5
augustya Posted July 30, 2024 Author Posted July 30, 2024 1 minute ago, walt.farrell said: If you can't let us see the image, then at least a screenshot of the Layers panel would be useful. Sure will do that. walt.farrell 1 Quote
augustya Posted July 31, 2024 Author Posted July 31, 2024 18 hours ago, walt.farrell said: That's because using words is very imprecise for most users, and they don't really explain everything that is relevant. If you can't let us see the image, then at least a screenshot of the Layers panel would be useful. Hi ! So I am using a random image and not my original image for privacy issues, in my same project I have placed this image and lets say if I wanna reduce the pink tone on the cheeks of this lady, the moment I add a Fill Layer and set it divide I get this silver hue on the entire image and no matter where I place it, either on extreme top or just above the pixel layer, The result is the same. So I am wondering how can this reduce the pink tone in this case? Quote
Alfred Posted July 31, 2024 Posted July 31, 2024 8 minutes ago, augustya said: I wanna reduce the pink tone on the cheeks of this lady The Fill Layer colour in your screenshots is light brown, not pink. You need to target the unwanted colour more precisely, but I’m not sure whether the method discussed here is capable of producing a good result in this case. Quote Alfred Affinity Designer/Photo/Publisher 2 for Windows • Windows 10 Home/Pro Affinity Designer/Photo/Publisher 2 for iPad • iPadOS 17.5.1 (iPad 7th gen)
augustya Posted July 31, 2024 Author Posted July 31, 2024 4 minutes ago, Alfred said: The Fill Layer colour in your screenshots is light brown, not pink. You need to target the unwanted colour more precisely, but I’m not sure whether the method discussed here is capable of producing a good result in this case. so no matter I sample the colour before adding the fill layer or after adding the fill layer, the end result is the same this strong shiny silver hue eclipsing the entire image. Not working for me !! Quote
carl123 Posted July 31, 2024 Posted July 31, 2024 I can't tell if the HSL layer is having an effect but surely you can upload that APhoto file using that sample image to the forum Quote To save time I am currently using an automated AI to reply to some posts on this forum. If any of "my" posts are wrong or appear to be total b*ll*cks they are the ones generated by the AI. If correct they were probably mine. I apologise for any mistakes made by my AI - I'm sure it will improve with time.
augustya Posted July 31, 2024 Author Posted July 31, 2024 13 minutes ago, carl123 said: I can't tell if the HSL layer is having an effect but surely you can upload that APhoto file using that sample image to the forum I have disabled the HSL Layer. Quote
augustya Posted July 31, 2024 Author Posted July 31, 2024 5 hours ago, carl123 said: I can't tell if the HSL layer is having an effect but surely you can upload that APhoto file using that sample image to the forum Here You Go Quote
carl123 Posted July 31, 2024 Posted July 31, 2024 The colour you picked for the Fill layer is way too dark, resample her cheek colour again. Then you can adjust the opacity of the Fill layer to further fine-tune it Quote To save time I am currently using an automated AI to reply to some posts on this forum. If any of "my" posts are wrong or appear to be total b*ll*cks they are the ones generated by the AI. If correct they were probably mine. I apologise for any mistakes made by my AI - I'm sure it will improve with time.
augustya Posted July 31, 2024 Author Posted July 31, 2024 1 minute ago, carl123 said: The colour you picked for the Fill layer is way too dark, resample her cheek colour again. Then you can adjust the opacity of the Fill layer to further fine-tune it So do I first sample the colour and then add the fill layer, or do I add the fill layer and then sample the colour. But Frankly it is not making any difference, it is giving me this Silver Overcast Hue. Quote
carl123 Posted July 31, 2024 Posted July 31, 2024 Sample the colour first is easiest The large circle at the top of the screen (below) is what you sampled. The small circle is what I sampled and that is what I would apply to the fill layer Alfred 1 Quote To save time I am currently using an automated AI to reply to some posts on this forum. If any of "my" posts are wrong or appear to be total b*ll*cks they are the ones generated by the AI. If correct they were probably mine. I apologise for any mistakes made by my AI - I'm sure it will improve with time.
Alfred Posted July 31, 2024 Posted July 31, 2024 3 minutes ago, carl123 said: The large circle at the top of the screen (below) is what you sampled. Your sample is what I might call dusky pink. @augustya’s fill colour looks much more brown. Quote Alfred Affinity Designer/Photo/Publisher 2 for Windows • Windows 10 Home/Pro Affinity Designer/Photo/Publisher 2 for iPad • iPadOS 17.5.1 (iPad 7th gen)
augustya Posted July 31, 2024 Author Posted July 31, 2024 20 minutes ago, carl123 said: Sample the colour first is easiest The large circle at the top of the screen (below) is what you sampled. The small circle is what I sampled and that is what I would apply to the fill layer 15 minutes ago, Alfred said: Your sample is what I might call dusky pink. @augustya’s fill colour looks much more brown. Guys that is not making any difference. Even if I correctly sample the colour at 100% it gives blinding silver flare on it and if I reduce the Opacity of the fill layer i see no difference in before and after results. Have any of you guys tried it? I have added the project file above. Quote
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