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One paragraph of my document (text copied/pasted from Word and styles applied) has short lines, as though there were line breaks inserted (not seen when looking at “invisible characters” [how does one do that, anyway?]) or a right paragraph indent (which there is not; set to 0).  When I copy and paste the mischievous paragraphs at the end of the document (the 4th page), the paragraphs behave properly, stretching across the full width of the text frame.

The paragraph above the 1st of the 2 miscreants are to the left of a logo, which has a text wrap on, and that wraps properly.  The bottom wrap setting is 0p3, so at most the first line might be expected to wrap, but not the others.

I am mystified.

Screen shots attached.  (In the course of creating these, I saw that the first bullet point under “Fort Lee” also misbehaves when it moves up to replace deleted problem paragraphs, so it seems to be something in the document set-up?)

Thanks in advance for any ideas.

OnPage1,MiscreantParagraphs.png

OnPage4,BehavingProperly.png

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9 hours ago, SallijaneG said:

not seen when looking at “invisible characters” [how does one do that, anyway?

Text > Show Special Characters.

9 hours ago, SallijaneG said:

The bottom wrap setting is 0p3, so at most the first line might be expected to wrap, but not the others.

You can display the Wrap Outline, which might provide some added insight. There's an Edit Wrap Outline button on the default Toolbar: 

https://affinity.help/publisher2/en-US.lproj/pages/Workspace/toolbar.html

 

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Text wrap maybe applied to the Image (logo), the Picture Frame or to an entirely separate, invisible object (no fill, no stroke), for instance:
[P.S.: your Picture Frame appears to be empty or the logo not properly nested. Drag the image on the picture frame layer's name and watch out for the tiny x icon on the nested thumbnail while the large X on the layout disappears.]

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2 hours ago, MikeTO said:

There could also be a Right Indent set for the paragraphs below the logo

See OP's initial note:

14 hours ago, SallijaneG said:

or a right paragraph indent (which there is not; set to 0).

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2 hours ago, thomaso said:

Text wrap maybe applied to the Image (logo), the Picture Frame or to an entirely separate, invisible object (no fill, no stroke), for instance:
[P.S.: your Picture Frame appears to be empty or the logo not properly nested. Drag the image on the picture frame layer's name and watch out for the tiny x icon on the nested thumbnail while the large X on the layout disappears.]

Bildschirmfoto2024-07-29um16_42_01.thumb.jpg.fcbb0055c5a9712599fe708b9105c7b9.jpg

See OP's initial note:

The logo is on the master page, the text in a text box on the individual page, so the picture frame is used to create a wrap.  I just realized looking at your outline that it is like the shape of the older logo (attached), so maybe there is a ghost wrap outline on the master page; will look for that.  Thanks!
BTW, my question about “looking at invisible characters” was more word play than finding how to turn them on; seems oxymoronic or something to look at the invisible (or maybe a superpower?).

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Posted (edited)

I just tried ignoring text wraps, and that did it, but of course the text went all across the logo, so I am going to have to find the hidden wrapped object, or manually break a lot of lines. . . .

Thanks again!
 

O.K., I made a new master page, realized that wraps on master-page items will be honored by an individual-page text frame, so instead of replacing the old logo, I just imported the new logo onto the blank page and created a wrap for it, getting rid of the picture box—all is well!  Image of successful wrap attached.

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1 hour ago, SallijaneG said:

and created a wrap for it, getting rid of the picture box—all is well!  Image of successful wrap attached.

If you adjust the wrapping curve via the "Edit Wrap Outline" button on the Toolbar as mentioned by Walt – or, alternatively, use a separate object with just a handful required nodes – you might even not need any manual line break and may use the same wrapping if the logo moves to another position or the text has to get modified.

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