Need an end arrow in donut/pie tool(DESIGNER)

[HYDROTRANSFORMATOR]

Hello everyone!

I cannot find any info about it, so I need to create a perfect circle arc. There are must be two arrows: one at the start and one at the end. For some reason there are one arrow at the start only, the another one appears only when it is 360°.

I also attach video of strange behavior:

 

[Old Bruce]

Welcome to the forums @HYDROTRANSFORMATOR,

I think the problem is that the two tools will make a closed curve instead of an open one. I would make the donut with some filled area and then convert to curves and delete the parts I don't want. Or I would make an Ellipse and convert to curves and break it and delete the parts I don't want.

 

[HYDROTRANSFORMATOR]

Thank you for answering.

I solved the problem almost exactly you said, but with Segment tool(guess, it does not matter).

It would be good, if Affinity Designer had an Arc tool, like in Illustrator OR Warp option for curves because, looks like, it works with shapes only.

[NathanC]

Welcome to the forums @HYDROTRANSFORMATOR,

I have logged this problem with the developers with regards to the 'Donut' tool/shape, as the start/end stroke arrowheads overlap on the 'Start angle' when it should be split.

[Hangman]

Hi @NathanC,

Would this not be considered the correct behaviour owing to the way a Donut is constructed, i.e., as soon as the Donut is split, a start or end angle is applied, the Donut becomes one continuous stroke with an arrow appearing at both the start and end of the stroke...

Once the Hole Radius is set to 100% you effectively have two overlapping lines so the arrows have no choice but to overlap... I wouldn't expect the end arrow to suddenly jump to the opposite end of the stroke since it is already technically correctly positioned...

[NathanC]

13 minutes ago, Hangman said:

Would this not be considered the correct behaviour owing to the way a Donut is constructed, i.e., as soon as the Donut is split, a start or end angle is applied, the Donut becomes one continuous stroke with an arrow appearing at both the start and end of the stroke...

Once the Hole Radius is set to 100% you effectively have two overlapping lines so the arrows have no choice but to overlap... I wouldn't expect the end arrow to suddenly jump to the opposite end of the stroke since it is already technically correctly positioned...

Quite possibly yeah as logically this does make sense. I'll leave it logged for the devs to ultimately decide but from a general user's perspective since it's possible to assign the stroke a start/end arrowhead it should appear in it's respective position on the shape when adjusting the start/end angle.

Additionally, i'm not sure if you've noticed but on Mac when you start adjusting the Start/end angle the Hole radius remains at 100% but the hole just re-appears in the centre as if it's at 50%, this doesn't happen on Windows and I've also mentioned in the same report.

[Hangman]

4 minutes ago, NathanC said:

Quite possibly yeah as logically this does make sense. I'll leave it logged for the devs to ultimately decide but from a general user's perspective since it's possible to assign the stroke a start/end arrowhead it should appear in it's respective position on the shape when adjusting the start/end angle.

That's fair enough re leaving it for the devs to decide though if the Donut is converted to a curve you still have two overlapping lines with an arrow at the start and end of the stroke, though I do equally understand the user expectation if they don't realise this...

 

16 minutes ago, NathanC said:

Additionally, i'm not sure if you've noticed but on Mac when you start adjusting the Start/end angle the Hole radius remains at 100% but the hole just re-appears in the centre as if it's at 50%, this doesn't happen on Windows and I've also mentioned in the same report.

I think I'm missing something here... when you say the hole just re-appears as if it's at 50% I'm not seeing this on Mac or Windows so I may not be understanding this correctly...

The only time I see the hole radius shown as 50% after setting it to 100% is if it's set to 50% in the context toolbar once the Donut tool is selected and before creating the Donut after the Donut is deselected...

What am I missing here?

[NathanC]

21 minutes ago, Hangman said:

I think I'm missing something here... when you say the hole just re-appears as if it's at 50% I'm not seeing this on Mac or Windows so I may not be understanding this correctly...

The only time I see the hole radius shown as 50% after setting it to 100% is if it's set to 50% in the context toolbar once the Donut tool is selected and before creating the Donut after the Donut is deselected...

What am I missing here?

See recording below which should hopefully clarify, deselecting the object or adjusting the angle just resets the radius.  Just one to be aware of on Mac until it's fixed.

 

 

[Hangman]

19 hours ago, NathanC said:

See recording below which should hopefully clarify, deselecting the object or adjusting the angle just resets the radius.  Just one to be aware of on Mac until it's fixed.

Hi @NathanC

Thanks for clarifying...

So this only happens (on Mac) when setting the hole radius by dragging its text label, doing so using the slider does exhibit the same behaviour which is why I didn't pick up on it...

Setting the hole radius to any value using the drag label method exhibits the same behaviour... In fact, it's the same for all available options in the context toolbar when dragging the label to change values, none of them stick. Using the slider they do...

I have a feeling this is already logged under AF-3198...