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Affinity Photo 2.5.2 running in macOS Sonoma 14.5 on a 2021 MacBook Pro with M1 Max and 64 GB memory.

When I click on the ∑ symbol for a live procedure texture in a macro, most often the LP is displayed; however, sometimes it subsequently immediately disappears. After that, the behavior is the same for any LP. The only reliable to "solve" the problem is to save my work, close the file and reopen it. Thereafter, it's only a matter of time before the problem reappears.

Any ideas, how to solve this nuisance?

Richard Liu

MacBook Pro 16" 2021 M1 Max & 64 GB memory | macOS Sonoma 14.7 | BenQ SW271 | Affinity Photo 2.5..5

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40 minutes ago, Richard Liu said:

When I click on the ∑ symbol for a live procedure texture in a macro

I'm not sure what you mean. Do you mean "while recording a macro"? Screenshots or a video recording might be useful.

-- Walt
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No, sorry for not mentioning that. I'm using some of James Ritson's macros. Some contain procedural textures in which a user can set some variables.

Richard Liu

MacBook Pro 16" 2021 M1 Max & 64 GB memory | macOS Sonoma 14.7 | BenQ SW271 | Affinity Photo 2.5..5

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1 minute ago, Richard Liu said:

No, sorry for not mentioning that. I'm using some of James Ritson's macros. Some contain procedural textures in which a user can set some variables.

Thanks. A screenshot of what you're clicking on would still help. And info about which macro.

-- Walt
Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases
PC:
    Desktop:  Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 

    Laptop:  Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU.
    Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2,  16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU
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The macro is Saturate Blues and Greens in James' JR - Photographic Retouching V3 macro collection, available on his site https://jamesritson.co.uk/resources.html and described here https://jamesritson.co.uk/pdf/jr-photographic-retouching.pdf . I was unable to make a video of the described behavior, but here's a screenshot of what's supposed to appear when the ∑ is clicked.

Screenshot 2024-06-07 at 20.37.33.png

Richard Liu

MacBook Pro 16" 2021 M1 Max & 64 GB memory | macOS Sonoma 14.7 | BenQ SW271 | Affinity Photo 2.5..5

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Thanks.

So, to recap: You run the macro. It does some processing, and creates some layers. Then after the macro has run, you click on the layer thumbnail of the Live Procedural Filter layer the macro added, but nothing happens. the dialog goes away immediately.

 

-- Walt
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    Desktop:  Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 

    Laptop:  Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU.
    Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2,  16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU
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12 minutes ago, walt.farrell said:

Thanks.

So, to recap: You run the macro. It does some processing, and creates some layers. Then after the macro has run, you click on the layer thumbnail of the Live Procedural Filter layer the macro added, but nothing happens.

What should happen is that the box to which the arrow points should display, so that I can change any variables that James Ritson foresaw users wanting to change. What sometimes happens is, the box appears then immediately disappears.

Clicking the ∑ produces the box, that immediately disappears. It's impossible to stop from disappearing. This happens twice; the third time, the box remains. When I close it and click ∑ again, it disappears. I did that three or four times before stopping the recording.

Richard Liu

MacBook Pro 16" 2021 M1 Max & 64 GB memory | macOS Sonoma 14.7 | BenQ SW271 | Affinity Photo 2.5..5

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Thanks.

By the way, I don't think there are any parameters that James intends you to adjust in that one. It still shouldn't close immediately, of course, but for that one he only mentions adjustting the Opacity of the layer in the Layers panel.

-- Walt
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PC:
    Desktop:  Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 

    Laptop:  Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU.
    Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2,  16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU
iPad:  iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 18.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard 
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Yeah, I know, but I couldn't find a macro in the file that I happened to be working on when I finally got so disgusted with this behavior that I decided to look in the forum for some advice.  Of course, it disappears so quickly that one can't even see whether there's anything to twiddle.

Richard Liu

MacBook Pro 16" 2021 M1 Max & 64 GB memory | macOS Sonoma 14.7 | BenQ SW271 | Affinity Photo 2.5..5

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That's understandable.

By the way, the documentation tells you when there's something to adjust :)

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    Laptop:  Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU.
    Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2,  16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU
iPad:  iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 18.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard 
Mac:  2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sequoia 15.0.1

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@Richard Liu It's not something I'm getting when I test the same macro on my macOS system.

Without using that macro collection, if you add a Live Procedural Texture filter and apply can you reopen the filters panel and it remain on screen until closed?

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All I know is what is contained in my attachments above. When I click and the box opens, it stays open. When I click and it immediately closes, clicking again usually does solve the problem.

Richard Liu

MacBook Pro 16" 2021 M1 Max & 64 GB memory | macOS Sonoma 14.7 | BenQ SW271 | Affinity Photo 2.5..5

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