Waarom is er wel een Times Italic in Word, maar niet in Affinity Publisher?

[AvdB]

Ik vraag mij af: waarom verschijnt in MS Word wel standaard een font Times Italic en in Affinity Publisher alleen Times Roman en dus niet Times Italic?

Het gaat hier om hetzelfde fonttype.

Het is een typografische vraag en deze hoort misschien niet op dit forum thuis, maar toch stel ik hem.

[GarryP]

Word Processors, like Microsoft Word, will often create their own ‘on-the-fly’ italic/bold versions of font glyphs when they don’t actually exist. This is because most word processor users aren’t bothered about ‘proper’ typography, they just want to get the job done quickly.

Desktop Publishing applications, like Publisher, often don’t do this because these ‘on-the-fly’ versions aren’t always good for ‘proper’ typography purposes. For example, an ‘on-the-fly’ italic is often just the normal font that has been skewed a bit, and so it doesn’t look quite right.

Have you checked to see if there is a Times Italic font installed on your machine?

[AvdB]

Ja. Times New Roman Italië. Het font Times zelf niet.

[GarryP]

Now I’m getting a little confused.

The font name in your screen-grab is “Times” where we can also see that the variant selected is “Roman”.

The name “Times New Roman” is the name of a different font to the “Times” font.

You might have both fonts installed and be getting confused between the two.

Can you show us:

• a screen-grab where you have the “Times” font selected with the list of variants also shown.
• a screen-grab where you have the “Times New Roman” font selected (if you have one installed) with the list of variants also shown.

See my attached image for an example.

[AvdB]

Hallo GarryP,

Bedankt voor uw reactie.

Zowel het font 'Times" als het font "Times New Roman" geven beiden nu "Italic" en meer weer. Ik heb het font "Times" bekeken op mijn laptop, maar daar verschijnt alleen "Times Roman". Ik denk dat ik het font Times het beste kan verwijderen van mijn laptop en het font dat op mijn desktopcomputer staat van daar opnieuw te installeren. 

Zie als bijlage "Times" en "Times New Roman".

[GarryP]

Thanks for the extra screen-grabs.

I don’t think you need to remove the “Times” font.
Removing it might cause problems with other software/documents that need it to work.
You can if you want to but the risk is yours.

It’s worth noting that the “Roman” variant of the “Times” font is probably not the same as the “Regular” variant of the “Times New Roman” font. The same goes for the other variants.

If I remember correctly, the “Times” font was created as a digital analogue of the metal typeface used by the “The Times” newspaper.

And the “Times New Roman” font was designed to look like the “Times” font, but different enough that it didn’t break copyright rules, so that it could be used without users paying for a licence for the “Times” font.

They might look similar but the differences could be important.

[Alfred]

44 minutes ago, GarryP said:

If I remember correctly, the “Times” font was created as a digital analogue of the metal typeface used by the “The Times” newspaper.

And the “Times New Roman” font was designed to look like the “Times” font, but different enough that it didn’t break copyright rules, so that it could be used without users paying for a licence for the “Times” font.

If I remember correctly, The Times newspaper originally used Times Roman but later switched to Times New Roman.

[Oufti]

According to Wikipedia, Times New Roman was the font created by Stanley Morison for The Times newspaper and edited by Monotype for their machines. 

Times (or Times Roman) was its counterpart edited for Linotype machines. When adapted for computer setting, it was notably licensed to Adobe and Apple, making it one of the core fonts of the PostScript page description language. 

"Although Times New Roman and Times are very similar, various differences developed between the versions marketed by Linotype and Monotype when the master fonts were transferred from metal to photo and digital media."

[Alfred]

23 hours ago, Alfred said:

If I remember correctly, The Times newspaper originally used Times Roman but later switched to Times New Roman.

 

1 hour ago, Oufti said:

According to Wikipedia, Times New Roman was the font created by Stanley Morison for The Times newspaper and edited by Monotype for their machines. 

Times (or Times Roman) was its counterpart edited for Linotype machines. When adapted for computer setting, it was notably licensed to Adobe and Apple, making it one of the core fonts of the PostScript page description language. 

"Although Times New Roman and Times are very similar, various differences developed between the versions marketed by Linotype and Monotype when the master fonts were transferred from metal to photo and digital media."

Times New Roman was created in the early 1930s. I must have been thinking of its replacement by Times Europa about forty years later.