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Hello, I'm hoping someone can shed some insight into a few random vector traces I'm seeing when I try and open either a .eps or .ai logo file that someone created for me using Adobe Illustrator Creative Suite. When I open either file the file formats in the sun/sky aera I get a handful of what appear to be vector strokes that when the file is opened in Illustrator are not there. I had a different friend of mine who also has a subscription to Creative Suite try and open them, he confirmed that the files are perfect. However when I open either in AD 2.4.2 this is what I get and I cannot see any way to fix it. 

Any ideas or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Attached is also the .jpg he exported that opens without the lines when being saved from Illustrator!.

Thanks in advance for your help,
Alex

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@Alex M Welcome to the Forums!  If you have Affinity Photo, you can add a new pixel layer, then use the Inpainting  Brush Tool  Screenshot2024-05-21at15_38_19.png.762cafdf55bb16c95f1a86f9b8e79c36.png , and on the Context Toolbar, choose Current Layer and Below.  Reduce the brush size a great deal, enlarge your image so you can see it very clearly, and then draw across the lines you wish to delete.  If you accidentally delete something you want to save, you can always delete the pixel layer on which your corrections have been made, and start over.

I purposely did not erase your red arrows.  I should add, then use FILE>Export, and save your corrected logo as a PNG or a JPG.  I hope this helps.

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Thank you so much @jmwellborn I need to keep it as a vector image for various projects I'm doing. I was hoping it was something that could be cleaned up in Design vs Photo and that maybe it was a known gap in the current version that maybe had not been addressed concerning the latest Illustrator build. That maybe in 2.5 or 2.x it might be something that would address and the file would open perfectly.

Thanks,
Alex

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6 minutes ago, Alex M said:

Thank you so much @jmwellborn I need to keep it as a vector image for various projects I'm doing. I was hoping it was something that could be cleaned up in Design vs Photo and that maybe it was a known gap in the current version that maybe had not been addressed concerning the latest Illustrator build. That maybe in 2.5 or 2.x it might be something that would address and the file would open perfectly.

Thanks,
Alex

Can you use it if exported as an SVG?  Unfortunately, Designer doesn't have the inpainting brush tool.  You could also open your logo file in Designer, then (if you have Photo) choose FILE>EDIT IN PHOTO, do the inpainting work, then go to FILE>EDIT IN DESIGNER.  Would that help?


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@jmwellborn Not sure how that would work, would that keep the file a vector image? Photo works in Pixels so it would introduce a bunch of pixels or am I missing something? Is there a hybrid type file that happens when you "Edit In" ?

I am trying it, and I see what you are talking about, it is removing the lines. Not sure what is technically happening as I've never edited a Design file with Photo, but I am giving it a try. I saved the file so either way I should be good to not overite the .ai or .eps file. 

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49 minutes ago, Alex M said:

might be something that would address and the file would open perfectly.

The person who creates the files in .eps or .ai should save the files in a PDF-compatible format. The problem with all Adobe file formats is the proprietary data area, which can contain various layer functions and effects, but cannot be read by third-party programs. This would explain the strokes. 

Unfortunately, the .svg format is also not suitable for using complex compositions for file exchange, as not all .svg implementations use all .svg functions.

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5 minutes ago, Komatös said:

The person who creates the files in .eps or .ai should save the files in a PDF-compatible format. The problem with all Adobe file formats is the proprietary data area, which can contain various layer functions and effects, but cannot be read by third-party programs. This would explain the strokes. 

Unfortunately, the .svg format is also not suitable for using complex compositions for file exchange, as not all .svg implementations use all .svg functions.

Thank you I will go back the the guy who created them and see if he can resave them for me with the PDF-Compatible Format enabled. Fingers crossed. Thank you. 

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You could have a quick look at photopea.com to see if you can convert the .ai file yourself.

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What you are seeing is the consequence of using a vector gradient and how Affinity interprets that. Basically Affinity doesn't understand a vector gradient so it rasterises it into small image bits, probably with masks attached as well.

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Yes that seems to be exactly what is happening, I see a bunch of layers extra masking. I asked the creator of the file to try saving it as PDF-Compatible Format as @Komatös suggested so hopefully that works, I'll know tomorrow. In the meantime I'm trying the the brush tool idea that @jmwellborn suggested and it seems to be working at least to what my eyes can see. Will have to see what the end result vector file ends up looking like. And if the creator cannot save it that way I'll give photopea.com a shot... never heard of it but why not. :)

I really appreciate all the awesome advice and feedback... Thank you to each of you. I'll come back tomorrow or the next day after he replies with a possibly modified file. 

Cheers' Alex

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The artist just saved the .ai and .eps file again using these settings and it did not fix anything, in fact more for of the sky was obscured. Open to any other suggestions and @firstdefence can you confirm this is how you were suggesting they be saved?

The files he sent look like this now: image.thumb.png.fddea4e9c82cd3ea78c0ac317d0e31f2.png

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The problem is that they are probably using a gradient mesh to draw the sun and the sky. Unfortunately, Affinity doesn't understand illustrators gradient mesh tool and tries to interpret it but fails and so you have the mess of fragments you see. The only way to fix it is for the artist to use a different method to represent the sun and sky, or rasterising the image on export.

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Hello, 

Would anyone be willing to help recreate those sky lines (not in Photo, but in Design) for we? It would require recreating the sun, and the few pink skylines? The clouds are fine and on their own layers. For some reason the mesh that created the sun and the pink sky bands got broken into a ton of small bits every time 2 vectors crossed over. I did spend about an hour trying the method @jmwellborn suggested of removing the lines in Photo and it does work okay in the more solid background areas in the brighter sun spots it does not look super clean. 

My thought is if the sky is recreated, I can go in and delete those few thousand sliced up boxes from the origional and leave the new skyline. 

My wife and I are starting a new small business and I'm kind of stuck until I can get this cleaned up. If you're not interested its fine just thought it was worth an ask. I could provide both the .ai file and the .eps file I received. For some reason the .ai makes the sky black but I'm sure its the same issue. 

Have a Blessed day, 
Alex

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