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I think I must be missing something simple but if I create a new empty document in AP 2.4.2 & add a Fill layer to it (via Layer > New Fill Layer) with Type: set to Solid, I cannot set the solid fill color -- whatever color I choose with the layer selected is ignored. Even if I change it to something like Linear, I cannot set either end to a color.

Attached is a simple Fill layer problem.afphoto file with history attached showing a Set Fill step, yet the Fill layer thumbnail in the layers panel shows it to be transparent.

FWIW, this does not happen in V1 or in the current V2.5 beta.

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13 minutes ago, Return said:

Color opacity is set to zero

Well, Duh!!! I knew it had to be something simple & I was almost certain I had checked opacity in the Color panel ... but I guess I was just having a 'senior moment' or something. But it is a bit weird that it was set to zero because I did not do that intentionally, & in other tests, if I just created any other kind of layer first, then when choosing a to add a Fill layer, it automatically (?) was reset to 100%. 

EDIT: After a few more tests, it looks like that whenever a new document has no layers & I then use Layer > New Fill Layer the opacity is automatically set to zero. This does not happen with the 2.5 beta or with V1.

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3 minutes ago, Return said:

Everybody has his/her/their/its moments.

Yes, I guess so, but can you (& maybe a few others reading this) check with your 2.4.2 version of AP to see if you create a new empty document & then add a Fill layer what its opacity is set to by default?

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6 minutes ago, R C-R said:

Yes, I guess so, but can you (& maybe a few others reading this) check with your 2.4.2 version of AP to see if you create a new empty document & then add a Fill layer what its opacity is set to by default?

When I create a new Fill layer in AP 2.4.2 (in a new, empty document) the opacity is 100%.

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12 minutes ago, Return said:

It may be a mac thing.

Hopefully another Mac user can test this & see if it is just me, just in Catalina, or what.

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6 minutes ago, prophet said:

My Mac (Ventura 13.6.6) has 100% opacity on a new fill layer.

And that is definitely in a new document with no other layer created first?

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New document, no layers.

New fill layer gives 100% opacity.

Photo 2.4.2, Monterey.

We have two places where we can set opacity: the layer and the colour. Is your colour opacity maybe set to 0%?

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23 minutes ago, RM f/g said:

We have two places where we can set opacity: the layer and the colour. Is your colour opacity maybe set to 0%?

If you are asking me, my issue is the opacity is automatically set to zero in the Color panel if I add a new Fill layer to an otherwise empty document. In the Layers panel it is set to 100% but of course that doesn't affect anything while the color in the Color panel is set to zero.

Since that does not seem to happen for other Mac users running other macOS versions, I assume it is either just something that affects Catalina only, or I have some sort of issue unique to my system that is causing this. I really don't want to try a CTRL-start reset of anything unless I am reasonably sure it is just my system & not something that occurs with all Catalina users.

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6 minutes ago, R C-R said:

the opacity is automatically set to zero in the Color panel if I add a new Fill layer to an otherwise empty document.

So, for you…

• You create a new document, the Color Opacity is 100%, the slider is all the way to the right
• You add a new Fill Layer and now the Color Opacity is 0%, the slider is all the way to the left

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1 minute ago, prophet said:

So, for you…

• You create a new document, the Color Opacity is 100%, the slider is all the way to the right

In a new empty document the Color panel slider is initially set to 100% (to the far right) but of course it cannot be adjusted (the field is greyed out) until a layer of some kind is added. If the first layer I add is a Fill layer, the slider immediately jumps to 0%.

If instead I start by adding a Pixel layer, or create a vector shape & give it a fill, the slider is at 100% & then if I add a Fill Layer it remains at 100% (or whatever other setting I have changed the slider to with that layer selected. So for me the necessary condition is creating a Fill layer first, before any other layer.

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10 minutes ago, Return said:

Perhaps try this

That seems to have fixed it, but at the expense of changing the default fill color for all vector objects to whatever color I set the Fill layer to before doing the sync/save. I guess that sort of makes sense but it does not explain why I never had to do this with V1 or the beta. To my knowledge, I have never set the opacity to 0% in any of the versions & then used sync/save to make that a default.

Oh well, I guess it all works as expected now so thanks to all who contributed.

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3 minutes ago, MEB said:

I can't reproduce this here on macOS. Reseting the app correctly sets the color opacity to 100% (without adding any layer).

I'm not sure what you mean. If I have no layers to begin with, what does sync to current selection do?

By "correctly" do you maybe mean reset to factory defaults?

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