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If I group character styles into a group, I don't see any character styles when I want to select, for example, for initial words. Is this a bug?

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It is the same as your other topic (below). A Group Text Style cannot be applied to text. It is used only for organizing the Text Styles panel and for helping define other text styles, which you would then apply to text.

 

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Posted
9 minutes ago, walt.farrell said:

A Group Text Style cannot be applied to text.

These are completely different topics.
I don't choose a group style, I choose any other style that is in the group.

Posted
1 hour ago, anto said:

You didn't even read the topic carefully. It says: character style, not paragraph style.

For Groups, it doesn't matter. 

But I did misunderstand your issue; sorry.

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@anto: I don't see here what I believe you meant. All character styles are present in the popup Initial Words or Drop Cap, even if they are inside a group (wether "Cara" or "Corps x" in my example):

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But what is known is that when you choose a character style in these popup menus, the letters affected won't see this style assigned, even if their formatting is OK. 

https://forum.affinity.serif.com/index.php?/search/&tags=AF-1012

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Posted
4 minutes ago, Oufti said:

I don't see here what I believe you meant. All character styles are present in the popup Initial Words or Drop Cap, even if they are inside a group (wether "Cara" or "Corps x"):

1. The first problem is that you can't create a mixed group, that is, a group that contains both character and paragraph styles.

2. I've described the second problem here. Try collapsing your styles and see what you see.

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59 minutes ago, anto said:

1. The first problem is that you can't create a mixed group, that is, a group that contains both character and paragraph styles.

You can mix paragraph and character styles in a style group so I'm unsure what you're seeing.

I wish "style group" had instead been named "base style" because it doesn't group the styles visually if you're not using the hierarchical view. Its purpose is to provide a base set of formatting attributes on which other styles can be based. But regardless of whether you call it a base style or a style group, you can definitely based both types of text styles on it.

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Posted
24 minutes ago, MikeTO said:

You can mix paragraph and character styles in a style group so I'm unsure what you're seeing.

Now I see that it is possible.
The problem was that if I created a group and it contained both a character style and a paragraph style, and the group was closed, then I could not select the character style that was in that group through the Initial Words.
But this problem was solved in the beta version.

Posted
2 hours ago, anto said:

Try collapsing your styles and see what you see.

I'm using the retail version of Publisher (2.4.2) and even when collapsed, all the character styles are available in the popup menus I indicated. 

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Posted

Agreed, it's Windows only but there is something funky with it in 2.4.2 Mac - if I create a file in 2.5 beta and open it in 2.4.2 (which is possible at least for now), the Edit Text Styles > Initial Words > Character Style list will be set to the separator line between No Change and No Style. But it doesn't matter, this has already been changed in the 2.5 beta.

Posted
2 hours ago, MikeTO said:

[…] if I create a file in 2.5 beta and open it in 2.4.2 […]

FWIW. My document was created in 2.4.2 and presented the same strange pre-selection, as seen in my video. 

What importance, if it's now corrected… 

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