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Can anyone confirm this behavior when cloning? Also an annoying thing for me.

Cloning overwrites pixels. But as you move the brush further, the pixels reappear even though they were just overwritten.

 

 

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Depends on clone settings which are not visible in the video.

if source is layers below or global source this is somehow expected.

 

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You'll need to make shorter brush strokes. The area where the "1" is is not yet painted over as you move your brush further to the left, it is not painted over until you stop painting that stroke.

Upon reflection I think you may be painting onto a Pixel layer that is above the layer you have chosen to clone from.

Regardless you may want to increase the distance from the source area to the painting area.

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It would help if the recording included the complete application window, so we can see the Context Toolbar and the Layers panel.

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19 minutes ago, Old Bruce said:

I think you may be painting onto a Pixel layer that is above the layer you have chosen to clone from.

No. Here is another example. There is only one layer. Nothing else. It's a simple jpeg image. The clone source is the current layer (in the second attempt). And in this video current layer & below.

Now tell me this behavior is normal. For me it isn't. And it's really annoying when you have to constantly interrupt.

10 minutes ago, walt.farrell said:

help if the recording included the complete application window

That doesn't get us anywhere. Because there is only one layer here. One.

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Until you finish your brushstroke the source is the original. You could try using a larger distance between the source and the start of your brush stroke. You could set the source to underneath/above the line and then start your painting up/down from that source.

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4 minutes ago, StefanK said:

Here is another example.

It would be better to make the recording using the functions of the OS, rather than a camera. This is especially easy on Windows 11, but is also possible (not as easy, though) on Windows 10:

But it's not needed in this case. As @Old Bruce said, you need to stop painting for it to recognize the changes you've already made.

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I was very interested in this now. Yes, it doesn't really seem like abnormal behavior. Photoshop has the same effect. 🥴 I had already forgotten that. 😇

Ok, it's annoying though. But I can live with it. There are worse things. Incidentally, the undesirable effect only occurs when the source brush slides over the area that has just been cloned. Probably some internal graphics memory thing or something. This didn't happen with my first graphics program, Micrografx Picture Publisher. But Corel bought it and has improved that to death.

But now we finally have Affinity Photo. 🤩

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