Window size reverts to default on each restart - beta 2.3.1.2212

[MikeTO]

1. Open beta 2112 (any app) for macOS - the app will be at the default window size and position (a bit smaller than my screen and centered)
2. Drag the window to the upper-left corner and then drag the bottom-right corner to fit the window to the screen
3. Quit and open again - the window size will revert to the default size and position

It's remembering the studio/panel setup, just not the window state. I tried clearing user data but that didn't help.

[R C-R]

These AD & AP betas launch with the main document window offset from the upper left corner of my iMac's screen & wider than I have set them so they are covered by the 2 floating Studio panel groups I have placed on the right of my display. This happens on every launch & is quite annoying.

The same thing happens with the APub beta & in addition on first launch the Tools panel has reverted to some weird default nothing like the way I had it set in the previous beta. Among other things it shows the Cat Tool but not many of the others like the Place, Zoom, or Vector crop ones. 

[Sean P]

Hi MikeTO,

I suspect this is a result of fixing the Window Position stuff as this is now fixed, and when closed in fullscreen will reopen back to being windowed. I'll get this passed over to development. Thanks!

 

[MikeTO]

10 minutes ago, R C-R said:

...in addition on first launch the Tools panel has reverted to some weird default nothing like the way I had it set in the previous beta. Among other things it shows the Cat Tool but not many of the others like the Place, Zoom, or Vector crop ones. 

But if you customize Tools again it's fine, right? I can't find any problems with that at least.

[Affinity Info Bot]

An issue raised in this thread ("Unable to retain custom window size after quitting app") has now been reported to the developers by the testing team (Ref: AF-1679). Thank you very much for reporting this issue to us.

[Hangman]

37 minutes ago, R C-R said:

...in addition on first launch the Tools panel has reverted to some weird default nothing like the way I had it set in the previous beta. Among other things it shows the Cat Tool but not many of the others like the Place, Zoom, or Vector crop ones. 

FWIW, I saw this in a previous Beta with the Cat tool but I'm not seeing it in this one, for me my tool palette is as previously set...

[R C-R]

2 hours ago, MikeTO said:

But if you customize Tools again it's fine, right? I can't find any problems with that at least.

Yes, customizing the APub beta's Tools Panel layout persists on relaunch.

1 hour ago, Hangman said:

FWIW, I saw this in a previous Beta with the Cat tool but I'm not seeing it in this one, for me my tool palette is as previously set...

For me, in these AP & AD betas the Tools Panel retained the previous beta's layout, so it was only in this APub beta in which on first launch I got the Cat Tool but not the others like the Place Tool, etc. I mentioned. It did retain the two-column layout but all but one of my separators & groupings from the previous beta were gone, as well as most of those other tools. For example, I always use separate individual tool buttons for Art Text & Frame Text & put separators above & below that pair. That did not carry over to this new APub beta.

So instead of the 2 columns of a dozen or so tools in each column with 4 or 5 separators to create to me logical tool groupings, I got a very short two column list.

I also just noticed that the main Toolbar in all 3 of these betas has a very different arrangement & spacing of its items compared to the custom versions I set op in the previous betas. i have not bothered to try to redo that to match the previous ones. Since the document window won't retain its previous dimensions or position, it seems kind of pointless to try.

So all things considered, I'm not going to waste any more time on these betas. It is just too annoying to try to work around the bugs. ☹️

[Sean P]

13 hours ago, R C-R said:

Yes, customizing the APub beta's Tools Panel layout persists on relaunch.

For me, in these AP & AD betas the Tools Panel retained the previous beta's layout, so it was only in this APub beta in which on first launch I got the Cat Tool but not the others like the Place Tool, etc. I mentioned. It did retain the two-column layout but all but one of my separators & groupings from the previous beta were gone, as well as most of those other tools. For example, I always use separate individual tool buttons for Art Text & Frame Text & put separators above & below that pair. That did not carry over to this new APub beta.

So instead of the 2 columns of a dozen or so tools in each column with 4 or 5 separators to create to me logical tool groupings, I got a very short two column list.

I also just noticed that the main Toolbar in all 3 of these betas has a very different arrangement & spacing of its items compared to the custom versions I set op in the previous betas. i have not bothered to try to redo that to match the previous ones. Since the document window won't retain its previous dimensions or position, it seems kind of pointless to try.

So all things considered, I'm not going to waste any more time on these betas. It is just too annoying to try to work around the bugs. ☹️

I can't say for certain, but it sounds as though your Publisher's User Data was caught in the crossfire from this bug below in the run up to the 2.3.0 release. What happened, was that a list order of tools within the code changed, which caused havoc on changed shortcuts and tool panels. Unfortunately I cannot say what the last beta build you were running was, and even when you last run that (i.e when your Beta User Data was changed), looking at the changes in 2.3.1 I can't see anything that would interfere with the Tools layout either.

 

 

[loukash]

22 hours ago, MikeTO said:

Quit and open again - the window size will revert to the default size and position

Also, it ignores the MacOS Dock pinned left while doing so, i.e. the left-hand window bound is under the Dock.

[R C-R]

5 hours ago, Sean P said:

Unfortunately I cannot say what the last beta build you were running was...

If it helps, it was Beta 2.3.0.2165, last opened yesterday to get the 'new beta version available' notice, which I used to install the newer version. As I usually do, I opened the AD beta first & updated it, then after that completed, I did the same with the AP beta, & finally after both of those were updated, I did the same with the APub beta. Each of them was closed after updating before the next was opened for updating.

I'm not sure what "Beta User Data" that changed you mean, but if you tell me what folder it should be  in I can check.

[Sean P]

46 minutes ago, R C-R said:

I'm not sure what "Beta User Data" that changed you mean, but if you tell me what folder it should be  in I can check.

I was referring to where all your user data is stored on the Mac, and the fact that is a different location to the retail build as they don't share the same data (essentially treated as two different applications).

Are you 100% sure the incorrect tools didn't show up when you loaded 2.3.0.2165 to check for updates?

The issue I mentioned above affected 2.3.0.2096 and was subsequently fixed in 2.3.0.2106. If you modified your tools in 2.3.0.2096 to 'correct' the bug that was introduced, this would have been undone (an unavoidable side effect of the fix) in 2.3.0.2106 when we fixed the cause of the bug, however it does seem odd to me that you wouldn't have noticed this between 2.3.0.2106 and 2.3.0.2165, but obviously I don't know how much you would have used the Publisher Beta in that period.

I will try a customised UI Tools layour on 2.3.0.2165 and perform an upgrade to 2.3.1 and see if the customisations are kept.

[Affinity Info Bot]

The issue "Unable to retain custom window size after quitting app" (REF: AF-1679) has been fixed by the developers in internal build "2.3.1.2217".
This fix should soon be available as a customer beta and is planned for inclusion in the next customer release.
Customer beta builds are announced here and you can participate by following these instructions.
If you still experience this problem once you are using that build version (or later) please reply to this thread including @Serif Info Bot to notify us.

[R C-R]

2 hours ago, Sean P said:

Are you 100% sure the incorrect tools didn't show up when you loaded 2.3.0.2165 to check for updates?

Not totally sure about that, but 100% sure that prior to when I launched 2.3.0.2165 to check for this latest update, like when I was running it shortly after that earlier version was released, the tools were still arranged in the same custom order I created for them a few betas ago. IOW, prior to the check 2.3.0.2165 definitely was showing my custom tools order. 

As for where the user data for the betas is stored, I am aware that it is not the same as for the retail versions. So for example I have both a ~/Library/Group Containers/6LVTQB9699.com.seriflabs/v2 & a ~/Library/Group Containers/6LVTQB9699.com.seriflabs.beta/v2 folder, each of which has its own user folder containing among other items a tool_settings.propcol file. I also have an Affinity Publisher 2 & an Affinity Publisher 2 Beta folder in ~/Application Support/, each of which has a user folder. Those user folders each contain separate I assume independent versions of these 4 files:

find_and_replace_mru.dat
font_map.dat
glyph_browser.dat
visibility_options.dat

The  Affinity Publisher 2 folder contains one additional item, document_defaults.dat that the beta one does not include. Perhaps it is this missing *.dat that has something to do with it?

Anyway, if the modification date of any of these files is of interest, I can check for that if you want. Just let me know which one(s) are of interest.

[Patrick Connor]

2.3.1.2217 is now available on autoupdate to address the macOS restore window issue AF-1679

[MikeTO]

Thanks, it works great now.

[loukash]

21 hours ago, Patrick Connor said:

2.3.1.2217 is now available on autoupdate to address the macOS restore window issue AF-1679

I'm still seeing a difference to the v2.3.0.2165 behavior which might be related to this bug:

1. quit while in full screen mode
2. relaunch app
3. main window opens in regular mode but it fills the whole display, ignoring the Dock
   Window → Zoom fixes it though.

In 2.3.0, in step 3 the main window opens in full screen mode again, where I left off.

[Sean P]

On 1/6/2024 at 5:18 PM, loukash said:

I'm still seeing a difference to the v2.3.0.2165 behavior which might be related to this bug:

1. quit while in full screen mode
2. relaunch app
3. main window opens in regular mode but it fills the whole display, ignoring the Dock
   Window → Zoom fixes it though.

In 2.3.0, in step 3 the main window opens in full screen mode again, where I left off.

Thanks Loukash,
This is an issue we're aware of and is with development however it is not new to 2.3.1 - it is actually present in 2.2 and 2.3. 

 

[loukash]

34 minutes ago, Sean P said:

it is not new to 2.3.1 - it is actually present in 2.2 and 2.3.

As noted, I was documenting the difference between 2.3.0 and 2.3.1.
It's not a biggie – especially since I'm rarely using the full screen mode – but it still is a regression.

[Sean P]

On 1/5/2024 at 6:46 PM, R C-R said:

Not totally sure about that, but 100% sure that prior to when I launched 2.3.0.2165 to check for this latest update, like when I was running it shortly after that earlier version was released, the tools were still arranged in the same custom order I created for them a few betas ago. IOW, prior to the check 2.3.0.2165 definitely was showing my custom tools order. 

As for where the user data for the betas is stored, I am aware that it is not the same as for the retail versions. So for example I have both a ~/Library/Group Containers/6LVTQB9699.com.seriflabs/v2 & a ~/Library/Group Containers/6LVTQB9699.com.seriflabs.beta/v2 folder, each of which has its own user folder containing among other items a tool_settings.propcol file. I also have an Affinity Publisher 2 & an Affinity Publisher 2 Beta folder in ~/Application Support/, each of which has a user folder. Those user folders each contain separate I assume independent versions of these 4 files:

find_and_replace_mru.dat
font_map.dat
glyph_browser.dat
visibility_options.dat

The  Affinity Publisher 2 folder contains one additional item, document_defaults.dat that the beta one does not include. Perhaps it is this missing *.dat that has something to do with it?

Anyway, if the modification date of any of these files is of interest, I can check for that if you want. Just let me know which one(s) are of interest.

Thanks - none of those files relate to the Tools Panel. Would you be able to go to ~/Application Support/Affinity Publisher 2 Beta/ and attach the personas.dat file please?

[R C-R]

4 hours ago, Sean P said:

Thanks - none of those files relate to the Tools Panel. Would you be able to go to ~/Application Support/Affinity Publisher 2 Beta/ and attach the personas.dat file please?

personas.dat

[Sean P]

12 minutes ago, R C-R said:

personas.dat 497 B · 1 download

Thanks - this is how the Tools Panel and Toolbar look like with your file. Does this resemble what you were expecting? I'm not seeing the Cat Tool in place of other shape tools.

[R C-R]

1 hour ago, Sean P said:

Thanks - this is how the Tools Panel and Toolbar look like with your file. Does this resemble what you were expecting? I'm not seeing the Cat Tool in place of other shape tools.

I do not know what you mean about how these items should look. Did you not include a screenshot or something?

Anyway, note that I did apply the 2.3.1 (2217) update, after which I reset the Tools panel & Toolbar to the way I prefer, so that's presumably what this personas.dat file uses now.

EDIT: I also just now redid the Tools panel & Toolbar layouts in the Designer & Photo personas to match the retail APub version layout, so the attached personas.dat file is probably already out of date.

[Sean P]

15 hours ago, R C-R said:

I do not know what you mean about how these items should look. Did you not include a screenshot or something?

Anyway, note that I did apply the 2.3.1 (2217) update, after which I reset the Tools panel & Toolbar to the way I prefer, so that's presumably what this personas.dat file uses now.

EDIT: I also just now redid the Tools panel & Toolbar layouts in the Designer & Photo personas to match the retail APub version layout, so the attached personas.dat file is probably already out of date.

Whoops - I did indeed forget to attach the screenshot! Sorry about that!

[R C-R]

With that version of the *.dat file, my Toolbar did look like in your screenshot. However, the Tools panel did not. It had two columns, like in the previous beta but as I mentioned, many of the tools & separator bars I had placed on it were missing.

I suppose it does not matter now because I will be installing the new '2222' beta momentarily.