NotMyFault Posted January 3, 2024 Posted January 3, 2024 The crop tool in develop persona acts erratic wrt the bounding box of the RAW layer. Steps to reproduce: open RAW file set lens correction / vertical to -100% activate crop tool adjust area by increasing crop rotate cropped area Expected: the automatic adjustment of the cropped area during rotation should show any meaningful relation to the RAW layer content Observed: the automatic adjustment of the cropped area during rotation seems totally erratic. It has no detectable relation to the actual RW layer bounding box or the edge between opaque and transparent areas, no matter if factoring in lens correction or not. IMG_7575.CR2 Screen Recording 2024-01-03 at 20.02.08.mov Quote Mac mini M1 A2348 | MBP M3 Windows 11 - AMD Ryzen 9 5900x - 32 GB RAM - Nvidia GTX 1080 LG34WK950U-W, calibrated to DCI-P3 with LG Calibration Studio / Spider 5 | Dell 27“ 4K iPad Air Gen 5 (2022) A2589 Special interest into procedural texture filter, edit alpha channel, RGB/16 and RGB/32 color formats, stacking, finding root causes for misbehaving files, finding creative solutions for unsolvable tasks, finding bugs in Apps. I use iPad screenshots and videos even in the Desktop section of the forum when I expect no relevant difference.
Staff NathanC Posted January 4, 2024 Staff Posted January 4, 2024 Hi @NotMyFault, Could you possibly demonstrate the process on a recording from the open RAW stage? I'm not sure if I'm missing something key but I'm not seeing the behaviour shown in your recording on Mac/Windows, recording attached. Screen Recording 2024-01-04 at 13.08.15.mov Quote
Hangman Posted January 4, 2024 Posted January 4, 2024 1 hour ago, NathanC said: I'm not sure if I'm missing something key but I'm not seeing the behaviour shown in your recording on Mac/Windows, recording attached. Likewise... Quote Affinity Designer 2.6.3 | Affinity Photo 2.6.3 | Affinity Publisher 2.6.3 MacBook Pro M3 Max, 36 GB Unified Memory, macOS Sonoma 14.6.1, Magic Mouse HP ENVY x360, 8 GB RAM, AMD Ryzen 5 2500U, Windows 10 Home, Logitech Mouse
NotMyFault Posted January 8, 2024 Author Posted January 8, 2024 Well, did you extend the crop area before rotating? Do you use embedded or linked RAW? Quote Mac mini M1 A2348 | MBP M3 Windows 11 - AMD Ryzen 9 5900x - 32 GB RAM - Nvidia GTX 1080 LG34WK950U-W, calibrated to DCI-P3 with LG Calibration Studio / Spider 5 | Dell 27“ 4K iPad Air Gen 5 (2022) A2589 Special interest into procedural texture filter, edit alpha channel, RGB/16 and RGB/32 color formats, stacking, finding root causes for misbehaving files, finding creative solutions for unsolvable tasks, finding bugs in Apps. I use iPad screenshots and videos even in the Desktop section of the forum when I expect no relevant difference.
Hangman Posted January 9, 2024 Posted January 9, 2024 13 hours ago, NotMyFault said: Well, did you extend the crop area before rotating? Yes, as shown in @NathanC's screen recording... 13 hours ago, NotMyFault said: Do you use embedded or linked RAW? It makes no difference... Quote Affinity Designer 2.6.3 | Affinity Photo 2.6.3 | Affinity Publisher 2.6.3 MacBook Pro M3 Max, 36 GB Unified Memory, macOS Sonoma 14.6.1, Magic Mouse HP ENVY x360, 8 GB RAM, AMD Ryzen 5 2500U, Windows 10 Home, Logitech Mouse
NotMyFault Posted January 9, 2024 Author Posted January 9, 2024 2 hours ago, Hangman said: Yes, as shown in @NathanC's screen recording.. He did, but did not apply. it was reset in the second he started to rotate. In my video you see that I had extended the canvas via crop before starting the process. Quote Mac mini M1 A2348 | MBP M3 Windows 11 - AMD Ryzen 9 5900x - 32 GB RAM - Nvidia GTX 1080 LG34WK950U-W, calibrated to DCI-P3 with LG Calibration Studio / Spider 5 | Dell 27“ 4K iPad Air Gen 5 (2022) A2589 Special interest into procedural texture filter, edit alpha channel, RGB/16 and RGB/32 color formats, stacking, finding root causes for misbehaving files, finding creative solutions for unsolvable tasks, finding bugs in Apps. I use iPad screenshots and videos even in the Desktop section of the forum when I expect no relevant difference.
NotMyFault Posted January 9, 2024 Author Posted January 9, 2024 2 hours ago, Hangman said: It makes no difference... In my experiments it does. Quote Mac mini M1 A2348 | MBP M3 Windows 11 - AMD Ryzen 9 5900x - 32 GB RAM - Nvidia GTX 1080 LG34WK950U-W, calibrated to DCI-P3 with LG Calibration Studio / Spider 5 | Dell 27“ 4K iPad Air Gen 5 (2022) A2589 Special interest into procedural texture filter, edit alpha channel, RGB/16 and RGB/32 color formats, stacking, finding root causes for misbehaving files, finding creative solutions for unsolvable tasks, finding bugs in Apps. I use iPad screenshots and videos even in the Desktop section of the forum when I expect no relevant difference.
Hangman Posted January 9, 2024 Posted January 9, 2024 8 minutes ago, NotMyFault said: He did, but did not apply. it was reset in the second he started to rotate. In my video you see that I had extended the canvas via crop before starting the process. It's perhaps worth updating the five steps in your initial post to include this step as you don't mention this and it's not immediately obvious from your screen recording that you've done this because the screen recording starts after you've extended the canvas via the crop tool so we've just been following the five steps to the letter hence why we're likely not seeing the same behaviour... Having said that, maybe I'm still missing a step as this is what I see after committing the crop before rotating the image which as far as I can tell is then applying the crop to the newly expanded image which includes the checkboard area that was baked in at the point the crop was extended at the start of the process... Please let us know if we're still missing some steps here so we can see if we can replicate the issue as you're seeing it... Crop Image.mp4 Quote Affinity Designer 2.6.3 | Affinity Photo 2.6.3 | Affinity Publisher 2.6.3 MacBook Pro M3 Max, 36 GB Unified Memory, macOS Sonoma 14.6.1, Magic Mouse HP ENVY x360, 8 GB RAM, AMD Ryzen 5 2500U, Windows 10 Home, Logitech Mouse
NotMyFault Posted January 9, 2024 Author Posted January 9, 2024 Revised list of steps: open RAW file set lens correction / vertical to -100% develop in photo, use crop to increase canvas by factor 2 re-enter develop persona activate crop tool rotate cropped area I'm unable to provide a new video at this time as my mouse movements are not fit for video and would require too much cutting. Quote Mac mini M1 A2348 | MBP M3 Windows 11 - AMD Ryzen 9 5900x - 32 GB RAM - Nvidia GTX 1080 LG34WK950U-W, calibrated to DCI-P3 with LG Calibration Studio / Spider 5 | Dell 27“ 4K iPad Air Gen 5 (2022) A2589 Special interest into procedural texture filter, edit alpha channel, RGB/16 and RGB/32 color formats, stacking, finding root causes for misbehaving files, finding creative solutions for unsolvable tasks, finding bugs in Apps. I use iPad screenshots and videos even in the Desktop section of the forum when I expect no relevant difference.
Hangman Posted January 9, 2024 Posted January 9, 2024 Hi @NotMyFault, Steps 3 to 5 in your revised recipe are a crucial factor in the process here so many thanks for the update... I'm trying to wrap my head around this but I still believe that at the point you Develop the image and then 'use crop to increase canvas by factor 2' before 're-entering the Develop Persona' you've effectively baked in the crop that now includes the checkerboard background so once you attempt to re-edit the image in the Develop Persona you are no longer editing the source image but rather the source image including the baked in additional canvas area (i.e., checkerboard area) which is why you're seeing what you see in your screen recording... More than happy to be shown otherwise but my initial instinct would likely be, based on your revised steps, that this is expected behaviour... Quote Affinity Designer 2.6.3 | Affinity Photo 2.6.3 | Affinity Publisher 2.6.3 MacBook Pro M3 Max, 36 GB Unified Memory, macOS Sonoma 14.6.1, Magic Mouse HP ENVY x360, 8 GB RAM, AMD Ryzen 5 2500U, Windows 10 Home, Logitech Mouse
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