HuwR Posted December 30, 2023 Posted December 30, 2023 I use Affinity Photo to illustrate. With copying and pasting to a new layer the new layer loses quality and sharpness. Line work becomes less precise and more blurred. Am I doing something wrong? Thanks in advance for any suggestions. Quote
walt.farrell Posted December 30, 2023 Posted December 30, 2023 It would help to have a screenshot to illustrate the problem, including the Layers panel, @HuwR. Even more helpful would be a sample .afphoto file where we can see the problem. I might guess you're doing something other than a simple copy and paste, as that should not cause problems, so you might also explain what you do after the paste operation. Moving the pasted item, or resizing it, may be the cause of the problem for example. Or something you do after that. Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2, 16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 18.4.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sequoia 15.4
NotMyFault Posted December 30, 2023 Posted December 30, 2023 Most probably the position of the copied layer is not aligned to integer positions. Use the transform panel to inspect positions, and activate snapping with forced pixel alignment on and move by whole pixels off. Hangman 1 Quote Mac mini M1 A2348 | MBP M3 Windows 11 - AMD Ryzen 9 5900x - 32 GB RAM - Nvidia GTX 1080 LG34WK950U-W, calibrated to DCI-P3 with LG Calibration Studio / Spider 5 | Dell 27“ 4K iPad Air Gen 5 (2022) A2589 Special interest into procedural texture filter, edit alpha channel, RGB/16 and RGB/32 color formats, stacking, finding root causes for misbehaving files, finding creative solutions for unsolvable tasks, finding bugs in Apps. I use iPad screenshots and videos even in the Desktop section of the forum when I expect no relevant difference.
Hangman Posted December 30, 2023 Posted December 30, 2023 1 hour ago, walt.farrell said: I might guess you're doing something other than a simple copy and paste, as that should not cause problems If the pasted object is not pixel-aligned then it will suffer from the applied anti-aliasing making it appear blurry... Quote Affinity Designer 2.6.0 | Affinity Photo 2.6.0 | Affinity Publisher 2.6.0 Affinity Designer 2.6.2 (3213) Beta | Affinity Photo 2.6.2 (3213) Beta | Affinity Publisher 2.6.2 (3213) Beta MacBook Pro M3 Max, 36 GB Unified Memory, macOS Sonoma 14.6.1, Magic Mouse HP ENVY x360, 8 GB RAM, AMD Ryzen 5 2500U, Windows 10 Home, Logitech Mouse
walt.farrell Posted December 30, 2023 Posted December 30, 2023 32 minutes ago, Hangman said: If the pasted object is not pixel-aligned then it will suffer from the applied anti-aliasing making it appear blurry... But it would be pasted at the same location it was copied from, usually. Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2, 16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 18.4.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sequoia 15.4
Hangman Posted December 30, 2023 Posted December 30, 2023 4 minutes ago, walt.farrell said: But it would be pasted at the same location it was copied from, usually. It would but I was assuming that @HuwR was likely subsequently moving the object on the new layer at some point in the process which is when the effect of the anti-aliasing will show itself but maybe I'm wrong about the moving part... Quote Affinity Designer 2.6.0 | Affinity Photo 2.6.0 | Affinity Publisher 2.6.0 Affinity Designer 2.6.2 (3213) Beta | Affinity Photo 2.6.2 (3213) Beta | Affinity Publisher 2.6.2 (3213) Beta MacBook Pro M3 Max, 36 GB Unified Memory, macOS Sonoma 14.6.1, Magic Mouse HP ENVY x360, 8 GB RAM, AMD Ryzen 5 2500U, Windows 10 Home, Logitech Mouse
walt.farrell Posted December 30, 2023 Posted December 30, 2023 22 minutes ago, Hangman said: It would but I was assuming that @HuwR was likely subsequently moving the object on the new layer at some point in the process which is when the effect of the anti-aliasing will show itself but maybe I'm wrong about the moving part... Preferring not to guess, I asked for more details or a sample Hangman 1 Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2, 16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 18.4.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sequoia 15.4
HuwR Posted December 30, 2023 Author Posted December 30, 2023 Thanks for the responses - so quick! I need sometime to take screen shots and upload so I will get back to you all again. Your assumptions about pastin then re-sizing and moving are correct. I often need to do this with the pasted layer/selection. I will come back with evidence to explain tomorrow. Sorry for the delay. Hangman 1 Quote
HuwR Posted January 3, 2024 Author Posted January 3, 2024 @walt.farrell Sorry for the delay in responding. I'm afraid what I have here in terms of screen shots might not be much help. (also I struggled uploading the screen shots) The first screen shot shows a copy of the image pasted to another document and then worked on again to modify it's appearance somewhat. The second screen shot shows the image as it was originally drawn using a drawing display. The first screen shot shows the image following pasting to another document. It has been moved and (I'm not sure here) I may have re-sized the second document following pasting - enlarged slightly. Check the blur in the first shot in the beard especially compared to the original drawing. Hope this helps - and a massive thanks for your advice. Quote
walt.farrell Posted January 3, 2024 Posted January 3, 2024 Thanks. As you're pasting into another document, you need to verify that the two documents have the same DPI, and you need to verify that in the target document the layer is properly located on the pixel grid (with no decimal places in the X and Y coordinates). Also, if you resized the layer after pasting, that could cause this problem as the layer then doesn't match the document's DPI. Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2, 16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 18.4.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sequoia 15.4
HuwR Posted January 3, 2024 Author Posted January 3, 2024 @walt.farrell Sorry - the DPI's were the same at 300. Thanks for this. The pixel grid is something I am not familiar with. I am an amateur trying to create graphic fiction in a minority language so for me it's raw art ability and get stuck in with the software with youtube tutorials. If you know of a guide to such things I'd love to have the details. With regard to the pasting I was using the selection tool and pasting to isolate part of an image rather than grabbing the whole layer. Not sure whether this makes any difference? Thanks for your help. Quote
HuwR Posted January 3, 2024 Author Posted January 3, 2024 @walt.farrell Also apologies for the double pasting of the one image. There were only two in screen when I left the forum. Hope it was not too confusing. Quote
walt.farrell Posted January 3, 2024 Posted January 3, 2024 11 minutes ago, HuwR said: Not sure whether this makes any difference? It probably does. 12 minutes ago, HuwR said: The pixel grid is something I am not familiar with. I'm afraid that I wouldn't be able to do a good job of explaining it right now. With luck, another user or one of the Serif Staff can provide some details and pointers for you. But my hope was at least to get more details of your workflow explained so someone would be able to provide an answer Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2, 16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 18.4.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sequoia 15.4
Dan C Posted January 8, 2024 Posted January 8, 2024 Hi @HuwR, @NotMyFault posted an excellent explanation of pixel alignment that may help you. Lee HuwR 1 Quote
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