Discussion on whether Frames are "Resources"

[v_kyr]

1 hour ago, William Overington said:

I have been thinking ...

Instead of giving more sort of monologues here (...thinking out loud in order to start some questionable discussions about specific comercial hardware frames), you can just give it an own try and then you will see if things finally looks as you personally migh think.

Other than that, physical (hardware) frames -as we already told before- are no directly Affinity software related & based things as app "Resources" here in the sense of the forums resources section. If you would instead build/provide some reusable, non-trivial Affinity software based frame templates, or assets etc., so something other people can make then some real use out of directly in/for their Affinity software, then that would fit under the forums "Resources" section.

[William Overington]

21 minutes ago, firstdefence said:

All users of Affinity apps are going to use external resources of one description or another, so does it really matter if people on the forum are interested in what frames are available for framing their artwork? Isn't the point of producing photos, art, books, mags, flyers etc to implement them with real world external resources, be it a framed image, paper, a digital display board, etc, a means to an end and the bit in the middle "Affinity" being a step in that process/workflow. 

Your post is located as the final post on page 1 of this thread so as there have been further posts, I have quoted your post in full so as to minimize the risk of people missing it.

William

 

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[William Overington]

22 minutes ago, v_kyr said:

If you would instead build/provide some reusable, non-trivial Affinity software based frame templates, or assets etc., so something other people can make then some real use out of directly in/for their Affinity software, then that would fit under the forums "Resources" section.

I don't have knowledge to do the items you suggest, but would a font that I made be of interest?

It can certainly be used in Affinity software as I have done so myself.

Broadly two options, the font can be used just as ordinary text or the special symbols that I designed can be used, or indeed both together.

The reason that the font can be used as an ordinary font is that I  produced the special font by starting with a copy of a text font that I had produced previously and building upon it.

Anyway, the font is available from the following web page and there is a PDF document explaining the meanings in English of the symbols. The idea is for the symbols to have the same meaning in any language so as to help communication through the language barrier.

http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~ngo/localizable_sentences_research.htm

You don't need to use the special symbols, the font is also good for ordinary text.

The symbols are accessible in at least some Affinity software via the Glyph Browser. 

William

 

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[walt.farrell]

3 hours ago, William Overington said:

Thus knowing about these A4 frames

There is nothing special about those frames. It is common for frames to come with cutouts/mats such as you have been describing. 

[William Overington]

1 minute ago, walt.farrell said:

There is nothing special about those frames. It is common for frames to come with cutouts/mats such as you have been describing. 

Well, to me the special things about them is that they are both A4 and have an included mount, I have never seen an A4 frame with a mount before.

I have got other size frames that have a mount supplied, but these are in the size of many printers here in England and with a mount.

It has probably got something to do with the fact that in England we have metric standards for printing but continued with the Imperial sizes for photographs and do-it-yourself frames tend to be geared to framing photographs. The exception is A4 size frames, because many examination certificates are A4 size. But an examination certificate would be framed without the mount. So a delightful surprise when the frames arrived and each had a mount included.

Greetings cards tend to be in a mixture of sizes, some in one of the photograph size of 7 inches by 5 inches and some A5 and some in other sizes, some square.

I suppose the fact that the frames that I wrote about are at a relatively low price and that I can get them delivered as part of my grocery order is part of my enthusiasm.

Yet to me an A4 frame with a mount delivered with the grocery means that I can frame with a mount reasonably large images that I can get printed.

I have received quite a lot of criticism for posting what I thought was a helpful post relevant for people producing art using Affinity software programs. Such criticism acts as a deterrent to my trying to be helpful in spreading information. Encouraging silence, those who have not posted have not been criticised.

William

 

[William Overington]

This discussion is now labelled as HOT! and has had 853 views thus far.

I wonder if the thread will get a thousand views.

William

 

[v_kyr]

2 hours ago, William Overington said:

This discussion is now labelled as HOT! and has had 853 views thus far.

I wonder if the thread will get a thousand views.

AFAI recall, sadly, that was always your intention from beginnings in this forum. Aka to get some responses convulsively then to some obscure mostly Affinity software unrelated theme threads here in the forum. So mostly about things usually nobody seems to be really interested in. - I for my part will now leave and ignore such threads, in order to not feed the trolls with view clicks that these people are just after!

[William Overington]

Now  that Serif staff are back the discussion can hopefully continue and a good result for progress be reached by discussion considering all of the nuances of the situation.

Are these forums just about the Affinity products themselves or are they also about the whole human activities of becoming inspired of how to apply the products, including such things as videos of art exhibitions to inspire and including things like print services and frames to apply the electronic files generated using the Affinity products, encompassing the ways to take into account w hen designing in Affinity products the constraints of size and so on needed to apply those post Affinity processes facilities?

The big question going forward.

William

 

 

[William Overington]

I am thinking that two additional forums with names such as

Resources for inspiring creativity in using Affinity software programs

and

Resources for applying the output of Affinity software programs

would be a good solution, as then people who wanted to contribute to those forums and read those forums could do so.

That would mean three Resources forums and would support end users in using the software and applying its output.

I make this suggestion knowing that people who use Affinity software have various situations, some in business, some elderly hobbyists, at home. Maybe some are living in a care home and using and applying Affinity software is helpful to them.

William

[Patrick Connor]

1 hour ago, William Overington said:

I am thinking that two additional forums with names such as

Resources for inspiring creativity in using Affinity software programs

and

Resources for applying the output of Affinity software programs

would be a good solution

No this is not happening, and you realising that these new forums would be the place for you to post means you must now accept that there is no existing place for you to post these comments.  

[William Overington]

I suggested what I hoped would be regarded as a diplomatic solution.

As it happens my suggestion has not been accepted so there we are.

No, it does not actually mean what you say it means, I was trying to be diplomatic to find a solution.

However, I now recognize that posts of resources to inspire use of Affinity products and of resources to help end users apply electronic files output from Affinity products are not wanted by Serif management in the Resources forum and I will respect that policy of Serif management.

Thank you for allowing discussion of this topic and for ruling on the questions raised.

William Overington

Tuesday 2 January 2024